Why Did Nortel File for Bankruptcy Protection?

With the one year anniversary of Nortel’s bankruptcy filing happening in a couple of weeks, something I’ve been wondering about recently is why Nortel bothered filing for bankruptcy protection in the first place.

At this time last year, Nortel had about $2.5-billion of cash and some assets that could have brought in some much-needed financial stability given the economic climate and the uncertain spending plans of carriers and cablecos. Although CEO Mike Zafirovski apparently was against the idea of bankruptcy protection, the board aggressively pushed for it.

Six months later, Nortel decided to abandon ship by announcing it planned to sell all of its assets rather than use bankruptcy protection to restructure, close plants, lay off employees and reduce much of its $4.5-billion of debt. If done properly, Nortel might have emerged from bankruptcy as a smaller, more focused, viable company with a portfolio that included optical, VoIP, carrier products.

In hindsight, it was a strange decision. The only way to explain it is that the board panicked. Spooked by the volatile economic conditions and likely bullied by debt and bond holders, the board took the easy way out by pulling the trigger on the asset sale. In the process, it decided to kill Canada’s flagship high-tech company.

It would be fascinating to know why the board decided to throw in the towel so quickly and easily. For Canada and Nortel employees, why didn’t board decide to fight the good fight? Sure, debt and bond holders might not have got their pound of flesh but Nortel might have survived to live another day rather than feebly raise the white flag.

The last decade for Nortel was a disaster on many fronts – terrible strategic decisions, misguided acquisitions, an accounting scandal that cost it billions of dollars, a board that had little telecom experience, and a string of CEOs who had no vision about what Nortel could have become.

If there’s a silver lining, it’s that the assets that were happily purchased by Avaya, Ciena, Ericsson and Hitachi have found good homes, and that the thousands of employees who worked for those business units will continue to be employed. As well, maybe all the ex-Nortel employees will start their own companies or bolster the efforts of new companies. Finally, Nortel’s sad story will provide MBA students will lots of great studies to learn how not to manage a world-class company.

To illustrate Nortel’s puzzling bankruptcy protection process, here’s a video featuring Zafirovski after the company filed for protection from creditors. It starts with Mike Z. proclaiming “Ultimately, I believe this process will enable Nortel to become a more focused, financially sound and competitive company.” So, what happened, Mike?

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  • RedFlag

    “In hindsight, it was a strange decision. The only way to explain it is that the board panicked. Spooked by the volatile economic conditions and likely bullied by debt and bond holders, the board took the easy way out by pulling the trigger on the asset sale. In the process, it decided to kill Canada’s flagship high-tech company.”

    Although a Canadian company, Nortel ended up under control of USA hands. Canada lost control when Nortel made stupid purchases during the internet mania years. We keep hearing how bad Nortel was managed and that is true! but it was mismanaged deliberately so that Nortel's assets could be sold at fire-sale prices. The BOD and Mr Z did what they were supposed to do, move valuable assets away from Canada.

    Same thing is happening with Abitibi. As soon as the merge happened with that company, the stock fell to zero. Why, it’s under USA control.

    Bottom line, it's a clever way to “steal” valuable assets.

    Canada's only hope comes when the sale for the patents take place. The government can stop the sale if they decide it is in Canada’s best interest. However, the damage has already been done. USA may give up the patents by selling to RIM, since they got what they wanted..

  • XPM_guy

    I'm not sure I buy a Vast U.S. Conspiracy whose primary goal is looting Canadian assets – I don't think the reality is either coordinated or aimed at Canada in particular…

    Instead I think what happened to Nortel is the result of a corrosive business mindset which has dominated the business culture in the USA and elsewhere that promotes the false belief that every business is fundamentally the same so management need never have to worry about the details as long as they follow certain generic MBA guidelines (e.g. slap together some statistical models and define rigid processes based on them, “streamline operations” by laying off a bunch of workers, then collect huge bonuses regardless of how things turn out). Short-sighted greed driving generically-trained leaders who remain proudly clueless as to the details of the businesses they run is just the fashion today in far too many boardrooms (also peopled with folks who have no clue what the business they oversee actually does), not some sort of anti-Canadian plot – or at least not one focused just on Canada…

    Nortel is an archetypical example of how wrong and devastating this sort of MBA hubris can be. Ditto for Enron and the Wizards of Wall Street who brought us the Great Depression 2.0 (This Time It's Global!), whose full reckoning has yet to play out thanks to the massive governmental debt piling up in so many countries as individually bad private fiscal choices become public liabilities so that the societal costs of those private choices can be amortized over several generations of tax payers. Isn't modern capitalism grand!

    Given RIM's earlier behavior during the CDMA/LTE auction, I would expect them to win the Nortel patents they wish to own and exploit. Not sure how much help they will be to Canada in general, though, except those owning RIM stock.

    All in all, the Nortel story is a tragedy – and hopefully a warning to others…

  • Troller

    Do you doubt Bagwell's reporting of this?

    “On Jan. 15, Nortel would be obliged to pay $107 million (all figures in U.S. dollars) in interest on its multibillion-dollar, long-term debt. Cash wasn’t the issue. The company had some $2.4 billion. The problem was that most of it was held by Nortel’s foreign subsidiaries and committed to joint ventures and such obligations as the pension fund for its British workers. It would not be easy to repatriate the money. Just $841 million of Nortel’s cash was available in North America, $176 million of it in Canada. So the Jan. 15 interest payment represented a significant portion of available resources. In three months, another interest payment would be due. “

    http://www.ottawacitizen.com/business/Part+Last…

    Also: Management had publicly said back in 4th quarter 2008 (when MEN first was announced for sale) that they needed to do more layoffs, but the “restructuring costs” (severance payments) would be too high. So I suspect the idea was to declare Chapter 11, whack a bunch of headcount, get a high price for a few of the divisions, and emerge from Chapt 11. When a “high price” did not materialize, it was game over.

    Finally: Bagwell's reporting said that Mike Z. was against declaring Chapter 11. Maybe the Board belatedly came to the conclusion that if Mike Z. was against it, maybe the Board should be for it!

  • wasthere

    ''I believe this process will enable Nortel to become a more focused, financially sound and competitive company”
    We heard that liner over and over during the 3 years reign of Mike ZariFLOPski !

  • felixmk

    I agree that the fundamental problem was the current greed/hubris/star US business culture. This culture is designed to enrich the management and selected investors (hedge funds et al) at the expense of employees and the majority of investors and bondholders.

  • gone4good

    Can you identify ONE thing Mike Z and his team delivered on ?

    - supply ?
    - ops ?
    - services ?
    - market shares ?
    - etc.

    He didn't even deliver on his own 7 points strategy to turn the company around.

    If you go back to August 2008, Mike gave guidance to the financial community that we were on track to acheive our revenues targets while all the major vendors (including Cisco) were bringing their numbers down… 40-odd days later, Mike was admitting to the same folks we were standing at the edge of a precipice.

    Was the cluelessness due to Mike Z, his exec team or the board ? It doesn't really matter at this point but I would vote for “all of the above”.

  • ex_roadtrash

    This is not a USA vs. Canada, this is a MBA/Management change that happened in both countries starting about 10 years ago. Used to be that in the Telephone Industry everybody started at the frame and worked their way up. Management had Technical backgrounds but not many had any business background. Then we switched to all business no technical, and any technical skills became a commodity. Cheaper is always better.

    Now when you tell management that it takes 3-5 years to really start to understand the CS2K, they look at you with disbelief and laugh. They then commence replacing us with new grads. 2-3 years later, the new grads are still struggling with the complex issues because the Business Oriented Management does not understand the complexity of the product, which lead to the New Grad technical development was not kept ongoing.

  • protosphere

    The story:
    After losing money for a decade amid growing debt and deteriorating outlook (with almost all its cash cow profits going out to pasture /nosediving in wireless due to CDMA decline, 80 to 90% EBT), any further business plans they presented were full of too many contingencies to be taken seriously. The government and even their own board members could not support further financing a frozen and prehistoric model unable to change with the times so long.

    Without further financing to keep feeding this insatiable white elephant, Nortel was on borrowed time. To maintain value for their increasingly antsy creditors who were ready to pull the plug anyways, they moved first to liquidate their rapidly deteriorating business units as soon as they could.

    My paranoid view:
    With so much cover up for what may be the worlds largest mass orchestrated fraud in history, certainly the largest fraud in their own country, with so many still there, even voted to their keeping fraud bonuses at a kangaroo AGM, their reluctance to chase past officers even after repeated requests, revising even future periods after so many delays and silence when restating a restated restatement, extending repair from Owens' months to years /half a decade and still not right even lenient SEC Currie called friends stepped in to monitor, tanking this ultimatum settlement they called fair while refusing to negotiate exorbitant and ongoing pay practices rewarding financial innovation and cost cuts whether it was to fly or not, a timely resigned plea bargained board who denied obvious red flags, appeasing big creditors than employees cutting severances, maintaining bonused and raises past bankruptcy, trading options yet again to perhaps diffuse, a board member's law firm defends Dunn's fraud charges as a conflict of interest, increasing lawsuit insurance to $300M who's premiums get paid first, as do others costs popping out of the woodwork like the taxman or legal fees, etc., etc. etc…

    In short, it was easier for them to sweep all this and everything under the rug and simply just fold with upcoming fraud trials on both sides of the border that can potentially expose what would make Enron look like a choirboy. Its associated fallout would bankrupt them anyway with even less left over than had they folded with billions in the bank and assets while they could still pay their prioritized and secured big business creditors and pals. Perhaps further evident by circumventing severances with their reluctance to attend the forced government inquiry where these ultimatum artists announced folded shop the very next day. =)

    Nothing to further persecute or inquire about if it is gone. Right? No credibility, too much stigma, the gig was up.

    Fraud trials on both sides of the border with mountains of pages in incriminating evidence still loom as they extended repairing internal controls and brought in a CFO after so many insider only CFOs with bankruptcy experience for a company who always claimed they didn't know.

    Even those not at the crime scene (CEO&CFO) are chrged with misleading, a CEO who defrauds from day one while promoting than terminating a criminally charged pal to the employees horror, like who else was Nortel to hire after high profile government figureheads like Owens and Manley…

    Nortel stunk and had to be put out of its misery one way or another after ruining so many lives amid its ongoing actions.

  • protosphere

    No miracles, tall mountains to climb, rocky roads to cross, grow like a plant or extinguish, without oxygen when this BSc really meant carbon dioxide…

    Perhaps the term great company was a typo for 3 to 5 years folding in the 3rd., trying to manipulate stock price at $20 buying opportunity, Hack taking Enterprise to a new level, not going bankrupt to WSJ speculation, as the new green private jet was grounded before their recycling coffee cups.

    Largest asset on books they sought to clean and that we bellyached about so long was a tax credit, and they are being sued for this, misleading.

    Nortel lies. Pathologically!

  • protosphere

    Ninja's focus was maintaining transforming innovative culture to one of bonuses and rewarding cost cuts on units that would fail anyways, reward financial innovation, tank ultimatum settlements with further revisions and for further periods killing triple profits nonsense, buy at $20 like they didn't know after so many insider CFOs to hiring bankruptcy Binning a year earlier, hype like never before, it was endless…what changed?

    So many there as they sweep the past under the rug with disappearing act, reluctance to show at government inquiry that subpoenaed them to attend, with Bells template, like jurisdictional grounds templates, only to announce no restructuring but liquidating the very next day….

  • TongueInCheek

    There is a piece of the story we know very little about and will likely not know for a long time.

    - What were the major points of influence in the decision to sell all business units rather than sell a few business units and restructure the rest?

    With the Bankruptcy Protection filings, Mike Z essentially lost the majority of his power and decision making capabilities. These powers shifted to Ernst & Young, the Bondholder Committee, the Creditor Committee and the Board of Directors. We've seen thousands of staff let go without severance and numerous real estate contracts exited with minimal costs. I believe this was the primary goal of the Bankruptcy Protection proceedings now that we know that much of the cash on hand was not available for restructuring purposes.

  • NT Still Here

    Very simple reason, they don't have to pay severance. I imagine they have probably saved hundreds of millions $$ by not paying out severance for the execs (Very Few) that got the axe and the other folks whacked.

  • less

    Add the stopwatch of love and timing, Lean Six, to everything, and you've got a sexy business rhythm.

  • XPM_guy

    I agree with you – the main purpose of filing was to secure a free hand to ignore contracts, such as those with employees and landlords. As for why everything is being liquidated when at least one part is still profitable, I can only surmise that all of the powers you mentioned came to the same conclusion: that the management team in charge of Nortel under Mike Z would never succeed in the telephony business, so there was no point in trying to emerge from Chapter 11 under them. Better to let someone else take over, someone who knows what they are doing…

  • less

    Each taking a hefty tip for their noble efforts to keep it simple…

  • whatnext4nt

    All the comments regarding MBAs are bit ironic and perhaps a little misguided regarding NT senior executive leadership, since Z and most other past CEO's of NT did not have MBA's. In Z's case an MBA may have actually helped somewhat, given that the only tune that he (thought) he knew how to play was the Jack Welch Jig. Turns out he didn’t know how to play that tune properly anyway – too bad the board was asleep at the switch and lacked even a basic appreciation of what they should have got vs. what they actually got when they hired a Jack Welch Protégée (= attempted but failed copycat).

    Insatiable greed and mind-boggling stupidity – a really band combo.

    Zero accountability or admission of guilt or failure from Z and the former board and some of the other usual suspects.

  • yes4aapl

    yaya
    Mark Evans is just making you think, use your brains oer something…
    Mark Evans is on of the smartest… I have ever known…
    the guy who lol the next day NT proclaimed triple digit profits in 2005… of course there was no profits,.. in restated numbers I found a reported loss in Q3 2005!
    but Mark knew that!
    He is an insider of NT!
    I am not… simple guy with simple life saying yes4aapl…
    Mark Evans is an insider!

  • protosphere

    “Ultimately, I believe this process will enable Nortel to become a more focused, financially sound and competitive company.”

    …lovely, how does he say this with a straight face like he forgets what he said before…

    Another lie.. of endless lies…..

    -Triple profits revised to create mark-to-market profits after ultimatum settlement
    -Bankruptcy pro Binning (after so many insider only CFOs) was brought in months before to claim they didn't know they would fold
    -Downplayed bankruptcy rumor by WSJ only to claim bankruptcy
    -Then they hyping restructuring after bankruptcy but only to liquidate
    -$20 was a screaming buy
    -3 to 5 year turnaround
    -largest asset a tax credit, as good as the paper signed with Motorola
    -It will be a great company again
    -they could run an even larger company
    -Lies were endless…

    Thankfully gone

    … no credibility, after largest fraud in Canada where one lie led to so many more. Rejoicefully toast.

  • 4XBS

    NT ..$380 billion in Market cap and 30% of the TSE , worth more in the year 2000 than the big 3 Banks combined. Every one and there dog owned shares , in there mutual funds , in there pensions. And now its reduced to ZERO $$$$$$$$$$
    And Wealth is power…
    Bankers are a Cartel that control society through the issuing of money/wealth and Cartels do not permit competition. This IS the direction of MOST publicly traded companies .. given time
    Its the elimination of the middle class and its in full swing….
    Better known as the Transfer of Wealth

    This was NO accident, its a Heist , most companies that file for CH7/11 have no money in the bank … 2.4Billion? who are the secured creditors? …BOND HOLDERS/BANKS … Who gets the shaft?

    The Publicly traded Shareholders & Pensioners

  • KenNt

    You folks need to remember the original reason for declaring chap 11. Nortel had a debt payment due to the bond holders but more importantly they had a large underfunded pension partially caused by the stock market crash. They also had large losses hence had to get rid of a lot of workers thus they had severance payments to deal with as well. So they could have paid the bond holders the interest, better fund the pension fund, and then pay the severance payments and had no money left OR they could declare chap 11.

    I'm curious why Nortel couldn't have come out of chapter 11 but I think that was because so many companies had halted purchasing Nortel goods and/or began ripping their equipment. Had Mike Z moved the Chap 11 process along quickly then Nortel had a chance at least IMO…but Mike always moved very slowly at things (anyone remember the quarterly financial annoucements?).

  • XPM_guy

    Exactly – the used Chapter 11 to give themselves a freer hand in making their choices as to whom to screw (and whom to reward with obscene bonuses)…

    But with CVAS adding new customers and growing both market share and revenue in 2009, even as the overall CVoIP market shrank, there were at least parts of Nortel that could have emerged as a healthy new business if those in power had chosen that path, which they could have done even as late as last month if they wanted to.

    But the bankruptcy overseers did not trust any part of Nortel to emerge – which calls into question the competence of Nortel's leadership (i.e. the same folks who gave themselves $45 million in KIEP/KERP retention bonuses on their way out the door to new jobs with the auction winners). Yes Mike was slow (and lying through his teeth about his oft-delayed re-org plan), but he was just waiting for that third $50,000 paycheck in July to bow out. I don't believe there ever was a plan to emerge – just drag things out long enough to pay plenty of bonus money to the execs in lieu of severance for long-term workers. Criminally sad…

  • RedFlag

    OK, so there are 3 explanations,
    1. Conspiracy/Fraud
    2. Inexperienced MBA's
    3. Stupidity

    Not one or the other, all 3 are “mutualy inclusive”.

  • exNTII

    same old report, same old blog. as much as I like this blog, Mark stop rehashing the same story again and again. It is becoming quite annoying. Nobody can rewind this nor go back in time. The deed is done so speculation over what could have been is a waste of time.

    All we can hope is the displaced get some compensation.

  • yes4aapl

    customers stopped buying from NT in the first quarter 2008
    second quarter confirmed that too and all was reported publicly…that the new orders were declining with the speed of $500 mill a quarter Mike still was lying at that time and you guys mentioned above he admitted it later, was it Sep2008?
    and one more thing and that was never admitted that they were using differed revenues to mislead the public.
    the panic at Nortel started much earlier than q1 2008. I saw it with a naked eye just reading public statements around Oct/Nov 2007!
    There was still lots of shares on the market to lose millions…..
    but
    bigger question than Nortel is; why it happens year after year after year on TSE?
    That lady/link/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb5zpALTy88&feat…
    will try to fix it a bit as Bob Verdun tried it too in 2000-2002
    He had to sell his independent newspaper because I noticed he was just scared.

  • exNTII

    I dont think MBAs even got a chance. In fact it should read Inexperienced Execs, who were scared or petrified to even get new or experienced MBA grads to look at the business. Most execs did not understand, know how to manage or lead the business. They were just there in the right place at the right time. And they did not want to change. To the contrary MBAs were muzzled and locked up. The old farts never wanted to learn on what the MBA grads could offer.

    For everytime I heard 'do not rock the boat' or 'if it aint broke dont fix it', if I got a dollar I'd probbaly be sitting on several hundreds of thousands.

  • Donn

    At what point does 'All About Nortel' make the transition to 'All About Avaya'?

  • TongueInCheek

    January 19th is a big day for Avaya as they announce their Product Plan of Record. Those interested in the technology migration will have interest in that event. The Telecom Blog will likely be a very good source of information on that topic.

  • borissss

    why allaboutavaya but not allaboutericsson?

  • protosphere

    Great news story!

    RCMP has people from OSC working there!
    OSC works too closely with industry when they are suppose to be regulators. Tiny OSC head makes 4 times SEC's and manages a fraction.

    OSC is like “fox looking after chicken coup” and “reluctant to put their pals in jail”, as one major TV station's journalist told me.

    This story also indicates what I reiterate so many times, “what don't we know about”, as she brings this battle to Ottawa claiming there is plenty of corporate fraud in Canada today.

    Open season on the investor remains in Canada's fraud haven with lax inquiry and penalty. Plas at the highest circles.

    In able for a heavyweight like Nortel to have paid the largest fraud settlement in Canada, with zero fine from OSC and only $75M fine from what ex-CFO Currie called their “friends” at SEC, regulators are acting contrary to their mandate like EDC who exported jobs or financed foreign orders. Even high government proflilers sat on their board with no telecom experience.

    Is the Canadian establishment crooked when integrity and honesty is an assumed ideal behind the civil and humanitarian circles of stellar people in our most lucrative neighborhoods? Do they really know thy neighbor I ask!

    Corruption at the highest levels from adgates /airbusgates /Bre-X/Nortel…etc… and no one gets quarter century sentences as in the US and as they kill many victims lives…

    Heck, they even openly legalized casino gambling, cut social programs since the mean spirited Harris days, with past government heads worrying more about aid to Africa today than looking at people in their own backyard struggling to survive working 2 jobs or seeing life savings vaporized, suicides, divorce, foreclosures, bankruptcy, record debt, pensions and severances cut…Who can donate to assist until things are fixed in our own backyard, … mega burn big bucks governments turning a blind eyed juggling big business as well as they did the forced Nortel inquiry or unit sales. Keystone moral no bodies against big bucks tyrants, who is winning with Bells on.

    Legalizing gambling that took the mob years in a wild west US town, these clowns contrary to public opinion no one got to vote on, legalize theft against their own citizens at a penstroke. Did this save as many lives as the casino suicides, mass exodus from homes, divorce, etc., to line more pockets with $2B profits as they seek an OLG scapegoat like OSC fining RIM a precedent amount. A joke.

    Too many crooks in the system sheeple fall victim to. Even our governor general can rewrite the laws of physics like road rage Joel if I may be so crass.

    We need radical change, and it can not come soon enough. The wrong people are in power. We need more humanities that mean spirited Harris wanted to scrap from universities curriculum of all things.

    This is all truly insane. In wonderful clean Canada to boot.

  • protosphere

    AllaboutCienna, AllaboutAvaya, Allaboutericsson, etc., will be covered in future tech articles you can be sure encompassing our technology spectrum.

    Given Nortel accounted for 1/3rd of the TSX with a $300B market cap, and even the fraud frally creating a larger cap than our largest bank (RBC, where Currie also resided) trading at a 47X fraud P/E… it deserves the special attention it gets.

    The history is exhaustive and to be seen to be believed, well worthy of commentary not found anywhere else, and government attention, it is was so endless.

    Never mind who bought Nortel, there will be other innovative players to watch as technology evolves. Like Cisco, Apple, RIM, etc… Telecom is only getting cheaper and more competitive.

  • bankrupt_bob

    MBA = Major Bullsh*t Artists
    LLM = Lame Lying Morons
    No room for simple common sense.

  • yes4aapl

    Why we talk about Nortel?
    Because at one point in time it had 100 000 employees and $300 bill market cap and now like a magic trick all is gone and nobody is guilty.
    They lied to us, the public, defrauded us, took our money and wanted us to shut up.
    Talking about nortel story is very important for the public. How governments in Canada can regain public trust? How public interest can be protect in the future? There are new big and bright stars and big stocks on TSE and investors invested in them. Will it happen again? Basically everyone in Canada owned NT stock, 4-5 bill shares at $100 each.
    Thank you Mark Evans for your good job on this blog
    Every one could post here from different angles to shape public opinion about Nortel and NT stock.
    with new tools available for the public there is hope there will be less accounting frauds
    Lets subscribe to
    http://www.youtube.com/user/dianeurquhart

  • NortelEmp

    To avoid costly severance payments since they knew that downsizing of thousands (upon thousands) of employees was necessary.

  • Lookahead

    Yes4appl, cannot more agreen on your points and we should all thanks to Mark Evans for his fatastic work to keep this board alive.

    One thing I want to add is:

    Nortel as a Canadian technology flag ship, its crash of cousr blamed to those inept BOD members and Execs, however, I do believe Canadia government should be stepp up and doing some thing to save a 100 more years company.

    When Coca-Cola tried to acquire a middle-sized soft-drink company in China, Chinese company stood up and said: no. Same thing behind HuaWei, Chinese government stands behind it and makes it an almost second world-class tele-communication company now. I believe Chinese government knows those are their nation's flag industry.

    But when Nortel needs Canadian government's hand, I do not see any thing out from our government, not even mention thousands lost their jobs, pensioners, and LTDers losing their benefits. Are Nortel technology assets worthless? from aution sales to E///, Avaya, Ciena and more to come, we know the Nortel technology assets are still worth much.

    I hope Mark can initiate a topic on: why Canadian Government was determined not to save Nortel? but put its bail out money on somewhere else?

  • scalppeeler

    There were Six reasons why they filed.
    1)) There was no Gov't bailout.
    2)) They knew the official opposition would keep the gov't preoccupied and distracted by harping on the rights of terrorist jihadists in parliamentary session.
    3)) They knew the federal, provincial and municipal governments had far more confidence and faith with Nortel ending up in the hands of foreigners rather than Canadians. Can't blame them for that based on Canadian gov't policies.
    4)) They knew things were only going to get worse and their Debt to cash flow position was going the wrong way exponentially.
    5)) They had no equity and no hope based on where they ended up and it really was the only way out.
    6)) The Board of directors knew the gig was up and they couldn't fly in airliners anymore knowing the full body scanners were about to hit the streets.

  • OneOfTheFewLeft

    The truly ironic part about this is around the time that Zipperhead the Great was making this video, he was also begging companies he was in talks with to purchase assets for a job. Not rumor, not speculation.. absolute fact.

    Mike Zarirovski, you are a fukkin' slime ball piece of crap. I hope you never get another job and you live out a long, lonely, broke existance.

  • scalppeeler

    Thats right. The government bailed out GM. Their numbers can in today and again they are losing money hand over fist again. Ford on the other hand had a big positive increase. They were not bailed out. Nice to see the gov't bail out all the union members and give them job and security for life. Are these guys bilingual and or are they members of a visible minority group.
    The official opposition is only interested in having an orangutang fit and
    get themselves in a tizzy hammering the feds on how jihadist terrorists are detained while fanatical jihadists almost blow a plane up over detroit, all the while our brave soldiers fight and die to keep the terrorists on their own dirt patch and here we have iggy and rae eager to get back to work to get on with the detainee inquiry. What a crock. What a joke. Nice to see the americans win the World Juniors tonight.

  • scalppeeler

    Not gonna happen.
    The crumb is rich and loaded for life.
    When you have lots of cash you can buy women, booze, coke and any
    other mind bender you want.
    Yes you can buy happiness even if it means you are out of it 24X7.
    Don't worry about mike.
    He's doin fine.

  • 4XBS

    Sounds like Mulroney , sell Canada out for Free Trade (but not for the citizens of Canada)…… Then when you resign your post as PM … move to the USA and sit on the boards of ..how many ? some 15 companies? and make 14 million? in the first year out of office .. What did the Canadian tax payer pay him while PM? $400 thousand per year? 15 companies that highly benefited from Free Trade .. 15 companies that probably never seen him show up for work…

    They are all Slime Balls..

    Paul Martin .. Loves Canada , loves it so much that his shipping company is registered in a counties where he pays almost no income Tax . Just make sure you pay yours!

    http://www.nowar-paix.ca/Posters/Paul%20Martin%…

  • Daphne

    And now the United States also has a President In Name Only. This is another example of what happens when a “leader” is selected solely on the basis of popularity, and not on the basis of actual accomplishments. The timeline Nortel has experienced the last 10 years has started with the US government. Given another 10 years, this “leadership” will bankrupt the US.

  • less

    In my experience, neither crusty old-timers nor young buck eggheads at Nortel really tended to dialogue and gel all that well, and to mediate between the two, to find common goals and a definition of success that meant something to both, was at times challenging.

    Unfortunately, telecoms is arguably far too complex a business for one man to know everything about, so folks needed to communicate. To the old-timer it meant reminiscing about the good old days; the young gun replied by waving a Six Sigma graph.

    It may too late to teach OTs how to create a simple Excel spreadsheet (attractive enough) to justify their existence, but those MBAs should be required to do periodic time on the lab floors to learn why running 150 ft of cable doesn't alway take “10 minutes, period”

  • 4merEmployee22

    The Board of Directors were really the ones accountable for the blame then for the demise of Nortel if they aggresively pushed for the filing of Bankruptcy Protection!
    Will it be the right answer to the basic question as to “WHO KILLED NORTEL?”
    The BOD's. And can they be sued individually then? or just a class action
    lawsuit will be fine when it's over? How much protection are they shielded from
    lawsuit? $300 million dollars?

    Opppss! Isn't Mr. Z. also serving as BOD while being a CEO at the same time?
    How come the BOD's were not invited in Ottawa? he he he he! to show up with
    Mike Z. for the enquiry?

    Simple question: How come you guys were giving away big fat bonuses if you
    are into Bankruptcy Protection??? Bankrupt companies usually don't have
    $2.5 billion dollars floating around.

    as some bloggers insinuated here that it is a freakin' HEIST after all?

  • Waddles

    20 bucks says you can't get an MBA to run cable, produce an original thought, or buy a round for the road crew.

    RIP Nortel, It was fun at times and Hell on earth.

  • vikingjack27

    I recently visit Huawei wireless Lab to see their Wireless progress as their guest,
    Sure. Huawei's common platform strategy will lower their cost very much.

    For Huawei's cost advantage and common platform design, I believe only Software or Chip vendor could survive.

    Nortel shall be sold. It was Sold too late which cause Nortel employee and Share holders lost too much….. Early sold, Early benefit.

    A new Nortel could survive with Nortel's patent or Patent investment!
    Old Nortel with Hardware sell can't exist.
    Good luck, New Nortel! Good luck,2010!

  • whopperscan

    The big market correction was an entirely predictable – and predicted – thing. The only question was when.
    Nortel's hopeless BoD pretended it would never end (they're not alone there, but such lazy negligence is no excuse).
    They sat, doing nothing (as always), watching Z and mates STILL lose money in what was an unprecedented and prolonged global economic boom. When it stopped, they knew their losses would increase dramatically. They never, ever cared about overall profit. Approve 2 wireless deals in India that would lose over a billion? who cares, the US reports a profit and that's where we sit, so that's all that matters. Much of that India deal transacted through a Canadian Nortel entity as well as Singapore. One assumes to use their profits to help fund those losses.

    They called Ch11 to avoid payouts to employees (they knew were inevitable), & avoid responsibility for their under-funding of pension funds. That means, in common-sense & ethical terms, (sadly not legal), they stole money from those plans for years before Ch11.

    Here's one – I think the BoD committed a major blunder, when they changed to globally use the US GAAP rules. They were chasing US stock market dollars, because all the BoD cared about was increasing stock price & revenue, not profits or any silly stuff like that. (was a bit of a fad in the late 90's).
    That change is when (& I say why) the rev rec reporting disasters started. BoD did nothing to change their staggeringly large Finance groups in Nortel, with their hundreds of stand-alone & disconnected reporting tools globally.
    I remember talking to Finance guys in a country (not in Nth Am), who were shaking their heads at the complexity of US GAAP (with no disrespect intended at all to US folks, the US GAAP is pretty bad as far as GAAPs go). They could not see how Nortel could meet those rules, with the training and tools and processes on hand. In effect, it turned once-simple rules into complex judgement calls, often at transactional levels (i.e: should we recognize this yet?) As we all know, they got it wrong many times. That was apart from the fraud of Dunn & co.
    Intersting, huh? Junior finance staff on the other side of the planet knew, but BoD went ahead anyway…. that change was a pointless failure. Did nothing

  • whopperscan

    I was often amazed at the size of Nortel's product catalouge. Well not so much the size, but how it appeared to be so mismanaged. There were huge chunks of those catalouges that just didn't sell. Certainly seemed to cry out for some kind of change to design philosophies.
    Having said that, Nortel hardware is good. They seemed to struggle to sell it's quality and whole-of-life cost, which was generally favourable.

  • whopperscan

    The big market correction was an entirely predictable – and predicted – thing. The only question was when.
    Nortel's hopeless BoD pretended it would never end (they're not alone there, but such lazy negligence is no excuse).
    They sat, doing nothing (as always), watching Z and mates STILL lose money in what was an unprecedented and prolonged global economic boom. When it stopped, they knew their losses would increase dramatically. They never, ever cared about overall profit. Approve 2 wireless deals in India that would lose over a billion? who cares, the US reports a profit and that's where we sit, so that's all that matters. Much of that India deal transacted through a Canadian Nortel entity as well as Singapore. One assumes to use their profits to help fund those losses.

    They called Ch11 to avoid payouts to employees (they knew were inevitable), & avoid responsibility for their under-funding of pension funds. That means, in common-sense & ethical terms, (sadly not legal), they stole money from those plans for years before Ch11.

    Here's one – I think the BoD committed a major blunder, when they changed to globally use the US GAAP rules. They were chasing US stock market dollars, because all the BoD cared about was increasing stock price & revenue, not profits or any silly stuff like that. (was a bit of a fad in the late 90's).
    That change is when (& I say why) the rev rec reporting disasters started. BoD did nothing to change their staggeringly large Finance groups in Nortel, with their hundreds of stand-alone & disconnected reporting tools globally.
    I remember talking to Finance guys in a country (not in Nth Am), who were shaking their heads at the complexity of US GAAP (with no disrespect intended at all to US folks, the US GAAP is pretty bad as far as GAAPs go). They could not see how Nortel could meet those rules, with the training and tools and processes on hand. In effect, it turned once-simple rules into complex judgement calls, often at transactional levels (i.e: should we recognize this yet?) As we all know, they got it wrong many times. That was apart from the fraud of Dunn & co.
    Intersting, huh? Junior finance staff on the other side of the planet knew, but BoD went ahead anyway…. that change was a pointless failure. Did nothing for the share price (market crashed anyway back then, as they always do), and helped create a long string of very public and damaging reporting failures.

  • whopperscan

    I was often amazed at the size of Nortel's product catalouge. Well not so much the size, but how it appeared to be so mismanaged. There were huge chunks of those catalouges that just didn't sell. Certainly seemed to cry out for some kind of change to design philosophies.
    Having said that, Nortel hardware is good. They seemed to struggle to sell it's quality and whole-of-life cost, which was generally favourable.

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