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		<title>By: less</title>
		<link>http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2009/12/01/a-fight-for-men/comment-page-1/#comment-31961</link>
		<dc:creator>less</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 23:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barry French &lt;br&gt;he be da wench&lt;br&gt;of NSN &lt;br&gt;go&#039; fight CIEN &lt;br&gt;yo, fo&#039; da MEN!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;wiki wiki wiki&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry French <br />he be da wench<br />of NSN <br />go&#39; fight CIEN <br />yo, fo&#39; da MEN!</p>
<p><i>wiki wiki wiki</i></p>
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		<title>By: Teleguy</title>
		<link>http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2009/12/01/a-fight-for-men/comment-page-1/#comment-31964</link>
		<dc:creator>Teleguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 21:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NSN should not go for any of them. They have tried to get Nortel MEN on a bargain and dropped out when it got too rich for them. Acquiring second tier optical companies would require a boat-load of investment. There best bet is to partner with companies like the new Ciena to meet the optical needs of their customers. I think the days of telco companies trying to do everything are over. It&#039;s too expensive and the Chinese will just continue to undercut the prices. Nortel couldn&#039;t do it any longer; Alcatel-Lucent is having major problems (they seem to be where Nortel was a few years ago); NSN is having problems now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NSN should not go for any of them. They have tried to get Nortel MEN on a bargain and dropped out when it got too rich for them. Acquiring second tier optical companies would require a boat-load of investment. There best bet is to partner with companies like the new Ciena to meet the optical needs of their customers. I think the days of telco companies trying to do everything are over. It&#39;s too expensive and the Chinese will just continue to undercut the prices. Nortel couldn&#39;t do it any longer; Alcatel-Lucent is having major problems (they seem to be where Nortel was a few years ago); NSN is having problems now.</p>
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		<title>By: scalppeeler</title>
		<link>http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2009/12/01/a-fight-for-men/comment-page-1/#comment-31963</link>
		<dc:creator>scalppeeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 20:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Fijutsi are not.&lt;br&gt;By lowball tactics I mean Huaweii and ZTE.&lt;br&gt;Nortel has nothing to do with the lines of business that are being sold off now.&lt;br&gt;All the employees and lines of businesses have been cut loose of the titanic.&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Fijutsi are not.<br />By lowball tactics I mean Huaweii and ZTE.<br />Nortel has nothing to do with the lines of business that are being sold off now.<br />All the employees and lines of businesses have been cut loose of the titanic.<br />It&#39;s over.</p>
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		<title>By: TellNo</title>
		<link>http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2009/12/01/a-fight-for-men/comment-page-1/#comment-31962</link>
		<dc:creator>TellNo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 19:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;   They&#039;ll be competing against fijutsi, the cheating asians and the fleur des lis alcatel amongst others.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Is Fijitsu one of those &#039;cheating&#039; aisans?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You can only defeat your enemy if you pay enough respect to them. If Nortel is so gloary as you said, they must have a very good reason why they are in bk now. oh, it must be global warming ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;   They&#39;ll be competing against fijutsi, the cheating asians and the fleur des lis alcatel amongst others.</p>
<p>Is Fijitsu one of those &#39;cheating&#39; aisans?</p>
<p>You can only defeat your enemy if you pay enough respect to them. If Nortel is so gloary as you said, they must have a very good reason why they are in bk now. oh, it must be global warming &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: less</title>
		<link>http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2009/12/01/a-fight-for-men/comment-page-1/#comment-28690</link>
		<dc:creator>less</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barry French &lt;br&gt;he be da wench&lt;br&gt;of NSN &lt;br&gt;go&#039; fight CIEN &lt;br&gt;yo, fo&#039; da MEN!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;wiki wiki wiki&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry French <br />he be da wench<br />of NSN <br />go&#39; fight CIEN <br />yo, fo&#39; da MEN!</p>
<p><i>wiki wiki wiki</i></p>
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		<title>By: Teleguy</title>
		<link>http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2009/12/01/a-fight-for-men/comment-page-1/#comment-28688</link>
		<dc:creator>Teleguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 16:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NSN should not go for any of them. They have tried to get Nortel MEN on a bargain and dropped out when it got too rich for them. Acquiring second tier optical companies would require a boat-load of investment. There best bet is to partner with companies like the new Ciena to meet the optical needs of their customers. I think the days of telco companies trying to do everything are over. It&#039;s too expensive and the Chinese will just continue to undercut the prices. Nortel couldn&#039;t do it any longer; Alcatel-Lucent is having major problems (they seem to be where Nortel was a few years ago); NSN is having problems now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NSN should not go for any of them. They have tried to get Nortel MEN on a bargain and dropped out when it got too rich for them. Acquiring second tier optical companies would require a boat-load of investment. There best bet is to partner with companies like the new Ciena to meet the optical needs of their customers. I think the days of telco companies trying to do everything are over. It&#39;s too expensive and the Chinese will just continue to undercut the prices. Nortel couldn&#39;t do it any longer; Alcatel-Lucent is having major problems (they seem to be where Nortel was a few years ago); NSN is having problems now.</p>
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		<title>By: scalppeeler</title>
		<link>http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2009/12/01/a-fight-for-men/comment-page-1/#comment-28686</link>
		<dc:creator>scalppeeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 15:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Fijutsi are not.&lt;br&gt;By lowball tactics I mean Huaweii and ZTE.&lt;br&gt;Nortel has nothing to do with the lines of business that are being sold off now.&lt;br&gt;All the employees and lines of businesses have been cut loose of the titanic.&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Fijutsi are not.<br />By lowball tactics I mean Huaweii and ZTE.<br />Nortel has nothing to do with the lines of business that are being sold off now.<br />All the employees and lines of businesses have been cut loose of the titanic.<br />It&#39;s over.</p>
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		<title>By: TellNo</title>
		<link>http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2009/12/01/a-fight-for-men/comment-page-1/#comment-28683</link>
		<dc:creator>TellNo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 14:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;   They&#039;ll be competing against fijutsi, the cheating asians and the fleur des lis alcatel amongst others.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Is Fijitsu one of those &#039;cheating&#039; aisans?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You can only defeat your enemy if you pay enough respect to them. If Nortel is so gloary as you said, they must have a very good reason why they are in bk now. oh, it must be global warming ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;   They&#39;ll be competing against fijutsi, the cheating asians and the fleur des lis alcatel amongst others.</p>
<p>Is Fijitsu one of those &#39;cheating&#39; aisans?</p>
<p>You can only defeat your enemy if you pay enough respect to them. If Nortel is so gloary as you said, they must have a very good reason why they are in bk now. oh, it must be global warming &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: random123</title>
		<link>http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2009/12/01/a-fight-for-men/comment-page-1/#comment-28680</link>
		<dc:creator>random123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 08:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good question, who will NSN go for next?&lt;br&gt;Possibly ADVA, Opnext(Stratalight) or Mintera.  Infinera I doubt, too expensive.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good question, who will NSN go for next?<br />Possibly ADVA, Opnext(Stratalight) or Mintera.  Infinera I doubt, too expensive.</p>
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		<title>By: scalppeeler</title>
		<link>http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2009/12/01/a-fight-for-men/comment-page-1/#comment-28673</link>
		<dc:creator>scalppeeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 01:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So let me get this straight.&lt;br&gt;You&#039;ve admitted NSN are not even in optical yet they want to get in.&lt;br&gt;If that was the case they would have outbid Ciena because nobody today in optical can match the current MEN 40G/100G solution all things considered. NSN chose to stop bidding when they did not want to go any further. NSN screwed up not only on Wireless, but on optical. If this won&#039;t stop them please enlighten us as to what their next moves might be?  And I disagree about your 800 million comment. They had a chance to bid 800 million but they dropped out at 769 at the auction. Your logic and argument is all wrong here. Totally nonsensical.  You are not talking to kindergarteners here.   NSN won&#039;t only be competing against Ciena if and when they buy into optical. They&#039;ll be competing against fijutsi, the cheating asians and the fleur des lis alcatel amongst others. If NSN wanted to get into optical they would have sunk Ciena and bought MEN. NSN are not getting into optical. You heard it here first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So let me get this straight.<br />You&#39;ve admitted NSN are not even in optical yet they want to get in.<br />If that was the case they would have outbid Ciena because nobody today in optical can match the current MEN 40G/100G solution all things considered. NSN chose to stop bidding when they did not want to go any further. NSN screwed up not only on Wireless, but on optical. If this won&#39;t stop them please enlighten us as to what their next moves might be?  And I disagree about your 800 million comment. They had a chance to bid 800 million but they dropped out at 769 at the auction. Your logic and argument is all wrong here. Totally nonsensical.  You are not talking to kindergarteners here.   NSN won&#39;t only be competing against Ciena if and when they buy into optical. They&#39;ll be competing against fijutsi, the cheating asians and the fleur des lis alcatel amongst others. If NSN wanted to get into optical they would have sunk Ciena and bought MEN. NSN are not getting into optical. You heard it here first.</p>
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