Comments on: Get Ready for a LTE Patent Shootout http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2009/08/22/get-ready-for-a-lte-patent-shootout/ All the News about Nortel Networks Thu, 09 Feb 2012 03:34:00 +0000 hourly 1 By: whatnext4nt http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2009/08/22/get-ready-for-a-lte-patent-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-31282 whatnext4nt Fri, 28 Aug 2009 05:26:53 +0000 http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2009/08/22/get-ready-for-a-lte-patent-shootout/#comment-31282 About time for another stalking horse isn’t it? About time for another stalking horse isn’t it?

]]> By: whatnext4nt http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2009/08/22/get-ready-for-a-lte-patent-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-25154 whatnext4nt Fri, 28 Aug 2009 01:26:53 +0000 http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2009/08/22/get-ready-for-a-lte-patent-shootout/#comment-25154 About time for another stalking horse isn’t it? About time for another stalking horse isn’t it?

]]> By: yes4aapl http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2009/08/22/get-ready-for-a-lte-patent-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-25062 yes4aapl Wed, 26 Aug 2009 00:27:37 +0000 http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2009/08/22/get-ready-for-a-lte-patent-shootout/#comment-25062 The British system worked. You got paid what you were worth.<br>The patents you owned proved it.<br>===<br>re<br>Can you be more specific?<br>British system, is that like German system too? The British system worked. You got paid what you were worth.
The patents you owned proved it.
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Can you be more specific?
British system, is that like German system too?

]]> By: scalppeeler http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2009/08/22/get-ready-for-a-lte-patent-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-24993 scalppeeler Tue, 25 Aug 2009 01:14:26 +0000 http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2009/08/22/get-ready-for-a-lte-patent-shootout/#comment-24993 Definitely Greener.<br>And yes I hold a big grudge against Canadian polticians since Pearson and Trudeau who have absolutely ruined Canada. Definitely Greener.
And yes I hold a big grudge against Canadian polticians since Pearson and Trudeau who have absolutely ruined Canada.

]]> By: zeroman http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2009/08/22/get-ready-for-a-lte-patent-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-24981 zeroman Mon, 24 Aug 2009 14:16:51 +0000 http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2009/08/22/get-ready-for-a-lte-patent-shootout/#comment-24981 the biggest mistake was to give 3G to Alcatel. So they took that customer base, poached Nortel 2.5G customers and will move all of them to 4G in a few years when LTE takes off. the biggest mistake was to give 3G to Alcatel. So they took that customer base, poached Nortel 2.5G customers and will move all of them to 4G in a few years when LTE takes off.

]]> By: zeroman http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2009/08/22/get-ready-for-a-lte-patent-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-24980 zeroman Mon, 24 Aug 2009 14:15:38 +0000 http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2009/08/22/get-ready-for-a-lte-patent-shootout/#comment-24980 This is hyped up for more than its worth. There must be patents for sure but its not at the level of pulling off a Qualcomm for CDMA, especially in RIM's case. The other LTE vendors (handsets, equipment) probably have their own patents, so this will most likely result in a patent swap or cross licensing. RIM maybe protected but it will not be a whole lot of protection for the amount they shell out. This is hyped up for more than its worth. There must be patents for sure but its not at the level of pulling off a Qualcomm for CDMA, especially in RIM's case. The other LTE vendors (handsets, equipment) probably have their own patents, so this will most likely result in a patent swap or cross licensing. RIM maybe protected but it will not be a whole lot of protection for the amount they shell out.

]]> By: whopperscan http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2009/08/22/get-ready-for-a-lte-patent-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-24976 whopperscan Mon, 24 Aug 2009 05:22:06 +0000 http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2009/08/22/get-ready-for-a-lte-patent-shootout/#comment-24976 What LTE patents does Nortel have anyway? I wonder if they're worth much, and if so, why.<br>Remember Nortel put all it's eggs in the Wimax basket initially... which failed. <br>Didn't that make Nortel quite late onto the LTE scene? Some thought we'd missed the boat entirely, as the first wave of customer trials and installations were under way already.<br>So does anyone have an idea which of the LTE patents Nortel holds is unique, really worth something? What LTE patents does Nortel have anyway? I wonder if they're worth much, and if so, why.
Remember Nortel put all it's eggs in the Wimax basket initially… which failed.
Didn't that make Nortel quite late onto the LTE scene? Some thought we'd missed the boat entirely, as the first wave of customer trials and installations were under way already.
So does anyone have an idea which of the LTE patents Nortel holds is unique, really worth something?

]]> By: JL123 http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2009/08/22/get-ready-for-a-lte-patent-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-24975 JL123 Mon, 24 Aug 2009 04:06:41 +0000 http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2009/08/22/get-ready-for-a-lte-patent-shootout/#comment-24975 Scalppeeler, <br><br>Is the grass is greener on the other side???? or are you holding a grudge against your motherland (assuming you are a Canadian)???? Scalppeeler,

Is the grass is greener on the other side???? or are you holding a grudge against your motherland (assuming you are a Canadian)????

]]> By: exnt_x_2 http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2009/08/22/get-ready-for-a-lte-patent-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-24974 exnt_x_2 Mon, 24 Aug 2009 03:01:21 +0000 http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2009/08/22/get-ready-for-a-lte-patent-shootout/#comment-24974 It's so weird. No one who actually did the thought, the work and the invention behind these patents is even involved here.<br><br>When do you get paid? <br>Never.<br><br>The British system worked. You got paid what you were worth.<br>The patents you owned proved it.<br><br>Nortel, you were just a bunch of monkeys.<br><br>Pass the peanuts, please. It's so weird. No one who actually did the thought, the work and the invention behind these patents is even involved here.

When do you get paid?
Never.

The British system worked. You got paid what you were worth.
The patents you owned proved it.

Nortel, you were just a bunch of monkeys.

Pass the peanuts, please.

]]> By: happyfeets http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2009/08/22/get-ready-for-a-lte-patent-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-24971 happyfeets Sun, 23 Aug 2009 20:58:02 +0000 http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2009/08/22/get-ready-for-a-lte-patent-shootout/#comment-24971 RIM is just embracing not being thwarted at every turn again.<br><br>They were already double-crossed by signed agreements before this downplayed bankruptcy that weren't worth the paper written on. Then an ultimatum to sign but now limiting the bid and a year to bid on others, they called fair... the court said so ... to sell as fast as they could for as much as they could<br><br>Keystone clowns at Nortel had anyone sign as fast as they could and played musical chairs with the terms to maximize getting as much as they could for big business creditor pals. To heck with past agreements, bankruptcy changed that.<br><br>RIM should chase this down and I can't see anyone bidding higher on the patents they want anyways. <br><br>Was this whopping 1.1B RIM would have offered without CDMA and EDC welfare? This would be way more than Ericsson's $1.13 (loophole artists Nortel valued ridiculously low fraction to what it was sold for so as not to trigger government intervention) and to have the courts exclude them by not signing Nortel's NDAs with post insolvency restrictions, to sell ASAP for as much as they can before they bounced... as they could have seemingly got more from RIM it seems. RIM is just embracing not being thwarted at every turn again.

They were already double-crossed by signed agreements before this downplayed bankruptcy that weren't worth the paper written on. Then an ultimatum to sign but now limiting the bid and a year to bid on others, they called fair… the court said so … to sell as fast as they could for as much as they could

Keystone clowns at Nortel had anyone sign as fast as they could and played musical chairs with the terms to maximize getting as much as they could for big business creditor pals. To heck with past agreements, bankruptcy changed that.

RIM should chase this down and I can't see anyone bidding higher on the patents they want anyways.

Was this whopping 1.1B RIM would have offered without CDMA and EDC welfare? This would be way more than Ericsson's $1.13 (loophole artists Nortel valued ridiculously low fraction to what it was sold for so as not to trigger government intervention) and to have the courts exclude them by not signing Nortel's NDAs with post insolvency restrictions, to sell ASAP for as much as they can before they bounced… as they could have seemingly got more from RIM it seems.

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