Comments on: RIM’s Relentless Request for Action

By: scalppeeler

scalppeeler — Sun, 23 Aug 2009 02:48:45 +0000

Here it is in black and white.
A perfect shining example how Canadian politicians don't care about their own.
Lots of money for multiculturalism, foreign aid, the arts, official bilingualism, welfare, refugee payouts, free health care to people who ever paid taxes but extreme doubt about tornado relief. This country really has diminished to a status below pathetic.

TORONTO - Communities hit hardest by the string of twisters that tore through Ontario this week will have to wait to see if they qualify for federal aid.

Public Safety Minister Peter Van Loan said Saturday that Ottawa has an emergency response program in place to assess whether damaged areas warrant federal assistance.

The aid decision will be the result of a calculation carried out over the coming days, said Van Loan, who was touring homes wrecked by a tornado that touched down two days earlier in Vaughan, Ont.

"It's not a political thing. It's a complex mathematical formula," Van Loan said.

While municipalities and provinces had the first level of responsibility to communities ravaged by the storm, the federal government is available to assist "when we can," said Van Loan.

By: scalppeeler

scalppeeler — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 22:48:45 +0000

By: scalppeeler

scalppeeler — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 17:17:03 +0000

Have to agree with you on that.
Not only have the federal, provincial and municipal governemnts in Canada failed miserably with respect to Nortel employees in canada, jobs in canada and innovation in Canada they continue to sabotage and handcuff by doing nothing. Clements office now is officially saying no comment while the employees spin in purgatory. The Canadian government is stalling real action and hampering interested parties and companies who at least are showing some faith in the workforce and will likely offer employment in a large number of cases. Remember this at voting time how your governments failed you not only BEFORE but AFTER the fact as well. They really must have it in for Nortel. I think they want to drive whatever is left of it into the dust along with all the Canadian Citizens working for it. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Canada does not like to take care of its own. It only springs to action if votes are involved, a media campaign blitz is launched or you sue them, at which point they'll gladly pay. Canada needs to startup some town hall debates on this. I know the pensioners are pushing for it after the way they've been screwed.

By: fabrice002

fabrice002 — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 16:42:42 +0000

Ideally, right. But it will never happen that way, because by declaring the patents Canadian-bound the number of competitive bidders (Ericsson, Siemens, Nokia, Huawei, et. al.) will be effectively prohibited.

So, who are the other Canadian technology players strong enough to run with these patents?

Consequently, in practice, restricting the patents to Canadians will cut off retirees at their knees.

At least that's how it looks to me. :>)

By: Get Ready for a LTE Patent Shootout

Get Ready for a LTE Patent Shootout — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 14:51:59 +0000

[...] company has been aggressively and publicly lobbying the Canadian government to review the Nortel-Ericsson deal because it contends the CDMA and LTE R&D assets are of [...]

By: yes4aapl

yes4aapl — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 08:53:24 +0000

This is a business case assessment not bean counting of R&D costs sunk by NT.
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As I said
Because NT is bankrupt you can buy their patents by kilos.
It's like treasure hunting from a sunk ship...
btw
Does posters here refer to Nortel as MS Nortanic?

By: Teleguy

Teleguy — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 03:00:04 +0000

He's all three.

By: whatnext4nt

whatnext4nt — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 02:04:31 +0000

What a crock. Either you don't know what you are talking about or you are a competitor trying to gain some imagined advantage by spouting this BS. Or perhaps you are a disgruntled ex employee.

By: whatnext4nt

whatnext4nt — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:56:56 +0000

Ideally RIM wins an auction for the patents and pays fair value with fair competition. That way the technology rights stay in Canada with a great and growing company that needs this technology, while creditors (including recently severed employees and pensioners) get fair value on this sale (if it happens).

By: whatnext4nt

whatnext4nt — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:47:41 +0000

I disagree and question the logic in your statements here yes4aapl, although you could be right regarding the pricing. The value of a patent portfolio is not restricted by how much money was invested in R&D associated with the patents. The value is in the quality and quantity of patents and what business value interested companies would place on them and what price they would be willing to pay for them.

Analysts have estimated between $1-3B; this may be on the high side, but the value of the patents could exceed the R&D investment. Also, only a portion of R&D investment is in work that is required to generate patents.

This is a business case assessment not bean counting of R&D costs sunk by NT. How much revenue could I generate per year for how long from this portfolio? How much would the IPR reduce the cost of royalty payments and material/parts cost for the products I make and sell? What desirable features and attributes would be added to my product and services portfolio if I had these patents? What would be the intangible/marketing value to customers and shareholders of increasing my LTE patent portfolio?