Parliamentary Committee to Hold Emergency Hearing

You just have to love the sense of political urgency swirling around Ottawa these days over the future of Nortel. After ignoring the company’s struggles, including a declaration in mid-June that all of its assets were on the block, the politicos are suddenly alive with the cause.

Bloomberg reports that a Canadian Parliamentary committee will hold “emergency” hearings on Friday to review the $1.13-billion sale of Nortel’s CDMA wireless business and LTE R&D unit to Ericsson.

Meanwhile, Industry Minister Tony Clement is still pondering whether or not to review the sale.

Folks, this is just political posturing. The sale to Ericsson isn’t going to be stopped because the CDMA business isn’t worth the hassle. Ericsson has more than 2,000 employees in Canada so it can easily sell the politicos on how it’s a good corporate citizen who will continue to employ people and invest in R&D in Canada. End of story.

If the federal government really wanted to protect Nortel, it would have provided financial support months ago.

And if the government really wants to get involve, it might be better off focusing its effort on Nortel’s LTE patents, which are world-class as opposed to the slowly-declining CDMA business.

One more thing: if the U.S. government had no problem seeing Lucent sold to France’s Alcatel, what’s the fuss about foreign buyers going after Nortel?

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  • yes4aapl

    If the federal government really wanted to protect Nortel, it would have provided financial support months ago.

    And if the government really wants to get involve, it might be better off focusing its effort on Nortel’s LTE patents, which are world-class as opposed to the slowly-declining CDMA business.

    One more thing: if the U.S. government had no problem seeing Lucent sold to France’s Alcatel, what’s the fuss about foreign buyers going after Nortel?
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    re
    The answer must be that NOKia is good and EDC_gov used $300 mill to finance that deal but Ericson is bad for Canada, bad bad, Ericson…
    bad E//!

  • protosphere

    The term “emergency” sounds urgent.

    In Alcatel's case, there was no other Canadian company willing to take their UMTS. In this case, there is interest by RIM to keep the LTE patents right here.

    Although I think the sale will be difficult to block, not impossible, given it needs government approval.

    Had NSN won the bid (with EDC support already in place to boot), they too would and have boasted their benefit to Canada to push the sale through.

    Albeit unlikely, it would be refreshing to see the government intervene and do the right thing to keep the technology they invested so heavily in with taxpayers money right here.

    I would rather they keep it here for all the bungling Nortel has done from acquisitions to selling assets. I also feel it is about time the government got involved from forcing inquiry to reviewing sale of assets they financed to maintain Nortel under so much benefit of doubt and enormous liberties and protection. Some one has to do the right thing and battle these Goliath's legal might and who better than he who writes the laws, the government.

  • indifferent

    The problem that the federal government does not want to address is the severance problem! If our spineless politicians had somewhat some level of honesty and responsibility, they would force Nortel (E&Y) to pay some level of severance. But they're clueless and more than anything they don't act to the benefit of their constituants! And please don't tell me it is impossible! The french governement did it!

  • Jimbo976

    It seems Basille has some powerful friends in Ottawa but I can't see how they are doing more than humoring him.

    This “emergency” hearing shouldn't take long. If they drag it out it just means more lost jobs in Canada.

  • TongueInCheek

    I can somewhat understand the Canadian Government wanting some influence on patents but no way should they have influence or control over products and people.

    Also, if RIM really wants the patents, then make a formal proposal rather than trying to manipulate a court ordered auction process just to get what they want cheaper.

  • john2009

    Its Just Political Game at the End. Nothing to with saving Nortel or stopping the Sale

  • zeroman

    politics. and there will be a huge falling out laer.

  • GoProto

    Now they are having “Emergency” meetings? Why now? It makes them look like fools, or like people with a hidden agenda because if they really were concerned they would have stepped up to the plate months and months ago.
    It's embarrassing to be addressing it now IMHO because it seems manipulative at best. Nothing will come of it. Instead of looking into the CDMA/LTE sale-they should “focus” (for Z..) on getting their citizen's severence and pension payments to be honored as they should have been. That would be an appropriate cause for an “Emergency Meeting”, eh?

  • TongueInCheek

    The funny thing is, if you visit the Parlvu website – http://parlvu.parl.gc.ca/parlvu/ it shows the meeting duration as 15 minutes.

  • mtvessel

    If the federal government really wanted to protect Nortel, it would have provided financial support months ago

    Do you really think that money would have solved Nortel's problems?

    They were swimming in money during the bubble and what did tHey do with it?

    I saw some of the telecom resumes during the first rounds of layoffs. Most of these people got jobs and are stil working. The people were good but the projects that I saw described in these resumes were unbelievable What was really unbelievable was that they were funded in the first place – web surfing from your digital telephone on DMS?? What customer would ever want it?

  • mtvessel

    One more thing: if the U.S. government had no problem seeing Lucent sold to France’s Alcatel, what’s the fuss about foreign buyers going after Nortel

    This could be a clever way of undermineing the Freanch and European telecom industries. Burden them with Lucent and watch them begin to die. Oncee they are weakened, burden them with Nortel as a final blow.

  • less

    So the opposite of Mikes annual 12-18 month restructuring plans.

  • GoProto

    Didn't we hear that Ericcson was petitioning to get the 300 mil now that NSN's deal fell through? Never heard any more about it. Maybe that will be brought up “emergency meeting”

  • duncan_stewart

    Mark,

    First of all, the US did squeak a fair bit when Lucent and Alcatel merged. But it is important to remember that it WAS a merger, and the first CEO was the former head of Lucent, not Alcatel.

    Second (and more relevantly, IMO) Lucent is/was a fairly big tech company in the US with many employees and innovation. But its RELATIVE importance is nowhere near what Nortel's has been to Canada. Nortel was our largest tech company by revenues, was the single biggest spender on R&D (by 4x the next biggest), etc etc.

    Whether or not the feds should step in, the significance of Nortel (or its component divisions) to Canada's tech community is roughly 10x or more what Lucent was to the equivalent US community. Regardless of what happens, its breakup, sale or whatever will leave a big hole.

  • zeroman

    political for sure. ericsson will probably make promises.

  • yes4aapl

    Do you really think that money would have solved Nortel's problems?
    mtvessel
    ===
    re
    Nortel would have as much $$$ as they wanted if they wanted to play fair with shareholders. Nortel wanted to get rid off shareholders and exit public markets and public scrutiny.
    Fraud after fraud after fraud
    even now they defrauded employees but managers get bonuses.
    In Pension Plan there is $3-4 bill missing. Pensioners are defrauded
    Creditors are defrauded of their money!
    Nortel has no Plan of restructuring but still does not want to work in the best interest of creditors. Creditors complain about that.
    3 years of GEniuses failures and they still are rewarded big $$$.

  • Teleguy

    Useless. All will be sold now..
    http://bit.ly/uDeLp

  • NortelTragedy

    Zafirovski's smug face disgusts me. Every image of him in an uncontrolled environment has the same expression and carries a tag line, “You can't touch me.” or “Hey, not my fault.” or “I just want this over. Give me my money and let me outta here.”

  • NortelTragedy

    I have a new post-Nortel gig for the SLT. Put Zafirovski, Hackney and Lowe on one of the island survivor shows. Watch them backstab, lie, cheat, steal, and stoop to new lows to survive.

    Then, when when it gets tough they'll say, “I'm a celebrity, get me outta here!”

  • GoProto

    Some more GEnius news…

    “General Electric Co. will pay a $50 million civil penalty to settle charges by the Securities and Exchange Commission accusing the conglomerate of improper accounting in order to make its financial results appear more attractive to investors”

    http://www.comcast.net/articles/finance/2009080…

    Just can't get away from the fraud it seems

  • Teleguy

    Not a bad idea at all. That would make for interesting television.

  • SomewunElse

    Not sure how the government or Canadian people invested taxpayer's money in LTE patents. If you're thinking tax credits, those are only useful when you're profitable, which Nortel hasn't been for some time. As for the EDC, anything they've supported has been on commercial terms – they're a business like any other, just a little more willing to loan. Generally speaking, Nortel money has flowed *into* the country as foreign buyers pick up gear, providing funds to support Canadian engineers and pay the various payroll and other taxes these employees must pay.

    And a general comment: cite your sources people, back-up your “facts”, and we can have some intelligent discourse. Otherwise, just claiming a thing is so don't make it so.

  • GoProto

    or new material for Desk Jockey. Actually, his youtube stuff is better than anything I've seen on TV..

  • yes4aapl

    Not sure how the government or Canadian people invested taxpayer's money in LTE patents. If you're thinking tax credits, those are only useful when you're profitable, which Nortel hasn't been for some time.
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    re
    You shine, man
    I love all your posts on this blog
    IQ above 140
    you said
    Major disclaimer: I'm a hypocrite hiding behind a pseudonym!
    ok
    come back to the topic

    Not sure how the government or Canadian people invested taxpayer's money in LTE patents. If you're thinking tax credits, those are only useful when you're profitable, which Nortel hasn't been for some time.

    let me ask you a hypothetical question
    Is it possible RIM is in arrangements with Save Nortel group?
    http://www.ottawacitizen.com/business/Tech+vets…

    If so, the Group wants to change the law and use the tax credits Nortel accumulated for years as Nortel has not been profitable for ages.

    .

  • GoProto

    And a general comment: cite your sources people, back-up your “facts”, and we can have some intelligent discourse. Otherwise, just claiming a thing is so don't make it so.
    ————————————————–
    You mean like NT backed up their “facts” when it came to their Financial Statements they stated, and re-stated, and re-stated and re-stated, and re-stated. Did I get them all? Yes, it didn't make it so, 4 times Sometimes “facts” are short-lived, as they turn out to be bogus based on sketchy “sources” like the SLT and BoD.

  • horace_grimswold

    Nortel has been eating its own bulls##t for so long that it actually believes its own nonsense. Now Parliament is voluntarily getting sucked in to this vortex of shenanigans?

  • Nortel_Employee_2009

    Die already…I wish someone can put this beast out of its misery.

  • yes4aapl

    haha
    good point
    facts?
    what facts?
    from the Nortel's propaganda or from Nortel's critics point of view?

  • less

    Tell 'em the show will go 12-18 weeks.episodes then turn that into – oopsie – 12-18 months, then 12-18 seasons. Give them Aralia stress balls as rewards instead of food for completing challenges.

    Speaking of plastic, why not ship 'em out to the Pacific Trash Vortex and let them build their island from the garbage swrling there. The patch is as big as Texas; surely Lowe could replicate the Ricahrdson campus in a jiffy.

    I'll bet they manage to turn the vortex itself around, literally, in 12-18 months. Like they did Nortel, and on a shoestring.

  • protosphere

    You sound like a pretentious like TongeInCheeks. Since when is “intelligent discourse”, as you sophistly put it oh holier than thou, contrary to what the media says.

    They have leached off the government so long, even buyers of its business want in on the action.

    Also, Nortel has also become an extension of our Universities, it is a regulated, and has burdened our markets with disgrace.

    Are you aware of government subsidies for a University education, multiply that by the number of engineers they employed at their peak and they have since lost. Now also consider how many have turned to Unemployment Insurance, even today since they cut severances.

    And what foreign money with a pay happy payroll of bonuses. The EDC is a crown corporation, taxpayer funded, failed loans are not repaid.

    As for the tax credits you mention, they were listed as their largest asset for years on books they sought to clean, and they are being sued for misleading.

    There are also shareholder losses to fraud that more than burden government than people directly, as in lies for theft. This is one big bull in a China shop thankfully gone.

    The main argument in the media is to keep the technology that was funded by Canadians stay in Canada.

    If you think money has flown into the country by foreign buyers their insolvency begs to differ. As for their payroll, who's? Pay practices are laughable.

    What mentality pumps this corpse on the premise it never burdened Canadian taxpayers. How about Canadian and US investors? Didn't burden them either providing a wonderfiul capital loss? right? hahaha… there can be only one explanation…

  • Soon2BExNortel

    Does anyone know when Ericsson will start sending out offer letters?

  • less

    I have written documentation that Richardson, where I worked, is a Center of Excellence. Who/what ya gonna trust?

  • beenawhile

    I understand within the next week or two

  • biddut

    Where were these clowns when Nortel ship was slowly sinking? Canadian politicians are worse than Americans.

  • scalppeeler

    Got that right.
    Tell you where they were.
    Deciding on the multi billion dollar bolt turner bailout for GM and Chrysler.
    Upping next years immigration quota so they can get more votes.
    Giving money to special interest groups.
    Increasing visible minority hiring quotas.
    Setting up more official bilingualism and multicultural review boards and pouring
    money into both.
    Your gov't at work.

  • scalppeeler

    Talk about Being Criminal.
    The gov't bail out bolt turners and won't touch nortel yet here is how your hard
    earned dollars are put to work.
    Only in Canadud.

    “Let's hope for example, that the promises made by our political leaders to raise immigration levels and provide more money for immigrant organizations are not kept”.
    “The 2.5 million immigrants who came to canada between 90 and 02 received
    18.3 BILLION MORE in governemnt services than they paid in taxes”
    “This amont is more than the federal government spent on health care and twice what was spent on defence in 2001/2002″
    “We have already experienced the impact mass migration has had had on health, education, traffic, social services and crime rates of our three major urban centers”
    “Only 18 to 20 percent of our immigrants are selected for economic factors. The vast majority..the rest…are sponsored by relatives or because of so called humanitarian reasons and none of them have to meet the points system of selection”

  • MikeZ_ElPresidente

    Canada suffers from the same anti-protest culture as most British colonies thats why Nortel employees are getting screwed

    Why dont the thousands of Canadian Nortel employees roll onto the streets of Ottawa, roll a few cars and set fire to a few tyres….the French do it all the time and it works.

    Sitting on a couch eating your hot dog bitching about the Canadian governement will make no difference.

  • nyt

    “Setting up more official bilingualism and multicultural review boards and pouring
    money into both.”
    Remind me what is wrong with this? you have issues with speaking anything but english, I guess :)

  • less

    I've found multi-lingualism a handy tool to find out what people really think abnout themselves and others behind closed doors.

    Global villagers preach “we are all equal, we are all the same” but in private, amongst themselves, they'll all modestly admit to being a little bit “samer” than, you know, those “other people” – race, culture, rites, rituals, politics, diet, fashion (sense), TV programs.
    No amount of dialogue in any language will ever overcome vanity.

  • GoProto

    Exactly. I doubt if the whole truth and nothing but the truth will even be unraveled ever when it comes to exactly who did what in this fraud laden team of Recognized Leaders to borrow Less's terminology. Propaganda- interesting word when it comes to a corporation's mentality don't you think..look at all they did, and GE did regarding false financial statements all in the name of “looking good”, a superficial layer of sugar covering a vat of lies and more lies even now.

  • john2009

    No one is going to change the deal. I am sure ericsson is going to take flight off smoothly

  • GoProto

    “The House of Commons industry committee will hold six hours of televised hearings tomorrow on Nortel, which is in bankruptcy protection in Canada and the United States.”
    http://www.financialpost.com/story.html?id=1863773

    Who's bringing the popcorn?? and beer to cry in?? BTW-
    No, TiC, it doesn't look like 15 minutes set aside to me.

  • protosphere

    TiC is anxious to see this fraud dog rise from the ashes but that is impossible as your link shows:

    “Mike Zafirovski, Nortel's chief executive, said in an interview yesterday he expects he will have initial bids for every one of Nortel's business units by the end of September.”

    “This means the winning bidders could take control of the business units by year-end.”

    “Mr. Zafirovski said Nortel has “no specific plans” for the disposition of these and other patents. “We are concentrating on selling the businesses first,” he said.”

    _____________________________________

    Everyone one of their business units on sale with only patents remaining… who they will sell to RIM after everything else is gone.

  • thidisbogus

    “Let's hope for example, that the promises made by our political leaders to raise immigration levels and provide more money for immigrant organizations are not kept”.
    “The 2.5 million immigrants who came to canada between 90 and 02 received
    18.3 BILLION MORE in governemnt services than they paid in taxes”
    “This amont is more than the federal government spent on health care and twice what was spent on defence in 2001/2002″—No different than our American politicians. This is national cultural suicide and defies common sense. Unfettered immigration is increasingly resulting in immigrants not willing to assimilate, but transplanting their culture into our society and basically “Balkanizing” the USA. Canada and every western european government is going down the same path. All for the sake of not offending someone. In the USA the illegal immigrants have more services-free healthcare, free college, free schooling- than citizens.

    nyt and less- This is not being prejudiced against other cultures or ethnicities, it is common sense. I don't have a problem with organized, sensible and controlled immigration. All of our ancestors were immigrants at one time.

    However, I don't go to Mexico and see english signs everywhere and get freebees I mentioned above if I am illegal. I get thrown in a Mexican prison and the key thrown away or deported promptly. You don't go to India, Saudi Arabia, Morroco, Honduras etc and get the freebees either. Only the west is so politically correctly insane. Only the west is expected by the rest of the world to act so insane.

    It is about borders, language and culture.

  • RedFlag

    That's probably what will happen PROTO, but I think there will be a fight between the creditors (who are bond holders and to a much lesser extent, preferred shareholders etc) and RIM over the patents. Pensions will be destroyed unless RIM assumes some of the pension liability.

  • RedFlag

    In which case, why should RIM reap profits by holding the patents. Why leave creditors with nothing?

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  • felixmk

    Better to be unemployed as a Canadian than live like the French.

  • yes4aapl

    Mike Lazaridis, RIM’s joint chief executive, is expected to be among the witnesses at Friday’s parliamentary hearing on the Nortel sale.

  • ChaiTea

    I thought this would be an televised parlimentary event.

    http://parlvu.parl.gc.ca/parlvu/

    Click on Friday, Aug 7, 2009 event, and you see a “locked” icon. if it was televised then one would see a camera icon.

    So is this a closed door/non-televised meeting?

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