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	<title>Comments on: Mike Z.&#8217;s ZMail About Nortel&#8217;s Enterprise Sale</title>
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		<title>By: TongueInCheek</title>
		<link>http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2009/07/20/mike-z-s-zmail-about-nortels-enterprise-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-31502</link>
		<dc:creator>TongueInCheek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 01:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Tony, the Cabletron (now Enterasys) assets you mention in your blog actually belong to The Gores Group, who has the 51% share in the Siemens Enterprise JV.  Avaya at one time had a strategic relationship with Extreme Networks but I&#039;m not sure of it&#039;s current status.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Tony, the Cabletron (now Enterasys) assets you mention in your blog actually belong to The Gores Group, who has the 51% share in the Siemens Enterprise JV.  Avaya at one time had a strategic relationship with Extreme Networks but I&#39;m not sure of it&#39;s current status.</p>
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		<title>By: UKNorteluser</title>
		<link>http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2009/07/20/mike-z-s-zmail-about-nortels-enterprise-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-31500</link>
		<dc:creator>UKNorteluser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 01:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So does this spell the end for the CS1000 range and BCM?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So does this spell the end for the CS1000 range and BCM?</p>
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		<title>By: tonyrb</title>
		<link>http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2009/07/20/mike-z-s-zmail-about-nortels-enterprise-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-31501</link>
		<dc:creator>tonyrb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Avaya with Nortel is good and bad.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.tmcnet.com/the-hyperconnected-enterprise/business_aspects/the-good-and-bad-of-avaya-nortel.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://blog.tmcnet.com/the-hyperconnected-enter...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Avaya with Nortel is good and bad.</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.tmcnet.com/the-hyperconnected-enterprise/business_aspects/the-good-and-bad-of-avaya-nortel.asp" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://blog.tmcnet.com/the-hyperconnected-enter.." rel="nofollow">http://blog.tmcnet.com/the-hyperconnected-enter..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: TongueInCheek</title>
		<link>http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2009/07/20/mike-z-s-zmail-about-nortels-enterprise-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-21797</link>
		<dc:creator>TongueInCheek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Tony, the Cabletron (now Enterasys) assets you mention in your blog actually belong to The Gores Group, who has the 51% share in the Siemens Enterprise JV.  Avaya at one time had a strategic relationship with Extreme Networks but I&#039;m not sure of it&#039;s current status.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Tony, the Cabletron (now Enterasys) assets you mention in your blog actually belong to The Gores Group, who has the 51% share in the Siemens Enterprise JV.  Avaya at one time had a strategic relationship with Extreme Networks but I&#39;m not sure of it&#39;s current status.</p>
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		<title>By: UKNorteluser</title>
		<link>http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2009/07/20/mike-z-s-zmail-about-nortels-enterprise-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-21790</link>
		<dc:creator>UKNorteluser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So does this spell the end for the CS1000 range and BCM?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So does this spell the end for the CS1000 range and BCM?</p>
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		<title>By: tonyrb</title>
		<link>http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2009/07/20/mike-z-s-zmail-about-nortels-enterprise-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-21772</link>
		<dc:creator>tonyrb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Avaya with Nortel is good and bad.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.tmcnet.com/the-hyperconnected-enterprise/business_aspects/the-good-and-bad-of-avaya-nortel.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://blog.tmcnet.com/the-hyperconnected-enter...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Avaya with Nortel is good and bad.</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.tmcnet.com/the-hyperconnected-enterprise/business_aspects/the-good-and-bad-of-avaya-nortel.asp" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://blog.tmcnet.com/the-hyperconnected-enter.." rel="nofollow">http://blog.tmcnet.com/the-hyperconnected-enter..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: L0L</title>
		<link>http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2009/07/20/mike-z-s-zmail-about-nortels-enterprise-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-21735</link>
		<dc:creator>L0L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you consider this cool-headed, there is very little use for any of the Enterprise folks in this deal:&lt;br&gt;- the business model of Avaya requires almost no direct sales force&lt;br&gt;- huge overlap in product portfolio&lt;br&gt;- no need for the LAN/WAN routers, security appliances, etc &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I hope some of the dat aportfolio will be spun off by Avaya, possibly under McHugh&#039;s leadership.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you consider this cool-headed, there is very little use for any of the Enterprise folks in this deal:<br />- the business model of Avaya requires almost no direct sales force<br />- huge overlap in product portfolio<br />- no need for the LAN/WAN routers, security appliances, etc </p>
<p>I hope some of the dat aportfolio will be spun off by Avaya, possibly under McHugh&#39;s leadership.</p>
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		<title>By: L0L</title>
		<link>http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2009/07/20/mike-z-s-zmail-about-nortels-enterprise-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-21732</link>
		<dc:creator>L0L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;These agreements are further proof of the considerable value Nortel’s businesses have in the marketplace. You have built the Enterprise business into a strong player and a valued asset in the industry.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Too bad all you six sigma black belt can&#039;t figure out a winning strategy with such a &quot;values asset&quot; for the industry.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mike z has become an expert at spinning:  like the Titanic, the nortel ship is not only sinking, it is breaking apart but Z and the execs keep saying how great the swim will be !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;These agreements are further proof of the considerable value Nortel’s businesses have in the marketplace. You have built the Enterprise business into a strong player and a valued asset in the industry.&#8221;</p>
<p>Too bad all you six sigma black belt can&#39;t figure out a winning strategy with such a &#8220;values asset&#8221; for the industry.  </p>
<p>Mike z has become an expert at spinning:  like the Titanic, the nortel ship is not only sinking, it is breaking apart but Z and the execs keep saying how great the swim will be !</p>
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		<title>By: ntlifer</title>
		<link>http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2009/07/20/mike-z-s-zmail-about-nortels-enterprise-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-21712</link>
		<dc:creator>ntlifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a gift from Nortel to the next owner. Not only are the getting a huge portfolio of products and customers. The CS2100 can be directly marketed into the carrier business, against whoever ends up with CVAS and it&#039;s CS2K.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a gift from Nortel to the next owner. Not only are the getting a huge portfolio of products and customers. The CS2100 can be directly marketed into the carrier business, against whoever ends up with CVAS and it&#39;s CS2K.</p>
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		<title>By: ExNtrl</title>
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		<dc:creator>ExNtrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 05:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would extend the ban to all GE executives.  Show me one GE executive that met or exceeded expectations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would extend the ban to all GE executives.  Show me one GE executive that met or exceeded expectations.</p>
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