Is Avaya the Logical Buyer for Enterprise?

Good thing Hackney isn't in CDMA negotiations with NSN and NA President Sue Spradley.

I'd like to Hackney try to order Sue Spradley around the Nokia parking lot. Sue would kick Hackney's sorry @ss across the Nokia campus.

yes they were down 40% but they were down 30% before that weren't they? This was right after Z-Man put his pal Hack in place of a proven veteran that has since left for Cisco

Nortel is burning and tanking greater than market contrary to your indication I can not say so with a straight face, even in this economy

More importantly they are now insolvent for all the difference it makes

Furthermore, they have no restructuring plan but are selling everything they can as fast as they can, a restructuring plan TiC repeated like it was a given or something while speculating on no bankruptcy to begin with. TongeinCheeks also calls critics bashers while he pumped this contradicting dog over the years to this day. I remain amused with some of the posts here and want no part of misleading with intent .

I apologize to readers for the mix up with Avaya and Siemens, as you too seem selectively keen on the Nortel PR while this turd floats. Nonetheless, I appreciate the correction to keep facts and truth straight, at least we “bashers” reply when corrected.

Critics are honest, not usually rude, or mislead with intent to personally attack others judging by one owns unethical actions. I even see strong buy still posted on Yahoo message board to get an idea of the relentless challenge.

Anyways, I was referencing the following article from memory and again apologize for the incorrect reference to Avaya only as a means to straighten out the facts, and not out of any respect as you may understand:

http://www.wirelessindustrynews.org/news-apr-20…

Last month, Nokia Siemens made an unsolicited offer for vital segments of Nortel’s wireless carrier division, including its profitable CDMA segment and divisions handling TDM and VoIP, according to The Wall Street Journal.

If the transaction goes through, it will likely involve the transfer of a little over 200 employees from Nortel. A Nokia Siemens Network spokeswoman declined to comment on the matter.

Acquiring Nortel's LTE R&D division would allow Nokia Siemens access to U.S. wireless carrier giant Verizon, although the carrier already went with Alcatel-Lucent and Ericsson.

would be nice to see her slap Hackney and choke him in the parking lot. Hack will then whine claiming assault.

mostly from panicked customers to keep their nortel stuff until their risks are mitigated. after that they dont need you.

going to drag this process on. 650 million will turn into 450 million by august.

nortel is taking faster than a comet plummeting to earth. sales are down a whopping 40% getting worse everyday. any news or comment

If she could kick his boss' ass as well as she did can you imagine what she could do to Junior? Celebrity Death Match I would gladly pay for…–bb

I guess what people are missing is the fact that Nortel has Nortel Government Solutions which is very profitable to Nortel and maybe the silver lining in a Nortel Enterprise sell. Nortel Government Solutions currently has the the Social Security Administration contract for 10 years worth 100 million and they also work closely with General Dynamics in various GSA contracts. Whoever buys Nortel Enterprise would indeed put themselves heavy into the federal arena.

There are 4 potential buyers including IBM and HP.

Does anyone still buy that stuff?

Can you confirm where you've heard that Shared Technologies is a candidate? We had heard such rumors (quiet rumors) but have yet to have seen anything leaked to the news.

I actualy do agree with you completely, well on some level at least. I find that the people who build this company up falsely are just as vile as the upper level management who mislead the public ad drove the company down into the ground.

My point of view in the matter is that at the core, the products and solutions that Nortel offers often gets mixed up with the management of Nortel in these posts of late and it's sad. We all agree that Nortel is a mess with the way it's being ran, and on some level, the fact that it's selling everything off is probably the best thing that can happen. Get rid of the antiquated ways of operation and move on. It's time to thin the structure and get rid of people and their their mini-kingdoms of crappy processes.

Moving to the technology and the solutions, how many vendors can you say the following about? Our voice switch has been running for over 15 years without being touched and never having to be patched. That you can take that same switch and with minimal effort upgrade it to support the latest of applications and capabilities (without a forklift). Or how many data switch vendors do you know that have made switches that can run for 13+ years without major problems. My favorite is this one: Do you know of any Cisco core Routers that the end user has to worry about what happens when the uptime counter reaches the end and loops back to '0'?

All of those things are true of Nortel technology.

And yes I do agree that things are tanking more and more and the longer they wait to move, the worse it will get. The press release that Nortel is seeking external parties to divest the business' has put every Nortel customer in their right mind into a minimum of a holding pattern until a clear buyer has been named, with a vision of where the technology will go.

This was not all directed directly to you, just an over all statement.

Wouldn't an objection from the creditors on the Nokia deal also disrupt any possible current deals on the table for Enterprise, etc..? You would think this situation would freeze any potential buyer of other slices of the Nortel pie stick that slice on ice for now and wait to see how this objection plays out..

what is cvas? is it not part of nsn deal

Nearing completion:

http://ctv2.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/R…

“Nortel Networks Corp. was close to a deal last night to sell one of its key businesses to rival Avaya Inc.

The sale of the enterprise unit to Avaya would mean that over the course of a single week the 127-year-old Canadian tech icon had agreed to sell off assets responsible for nearly half its revenue, following a deal with Nokia Siemens Networks for its wireless assets announced June 19.

Nortel and Avaya cleared one of the last major hurdles on Thursday and the two were near to signing the paperwork on a deal, worth as much as $500-million (U.S.), a source familiar with the situation said.

The two companies had alerted some of their major customers and resellers during the week that a possible deal was in the works. “

Great visual image and terrific comic relief. Thanks for that!

Yes it is really surprising.I have never thought of IBM and HP I should admit however when I dig deeper it may be really reasonable for them since CVAS platforms consist of lots of servers and a database software.A good market to sell servers,DB2 and AIX software.

The thrid main contender is Shared Technologies.

>>> Netas does 75% of VoIP R&D of Nortel.

Nonsense.

In stock market news regarding Netas, it was said that the CDMA deal would affect $1.7 M per year of Netas's software export business.

I am wondering what will happen to the employees if Nortel Enterprise will be sold to one of those companies. I am working at one of the affected sites and people are very concerned. Many are already looking for jobs and are scared of what may happen. Is too bad to fire people, they are working hard here and are doing great job. Without the employees working here, I believe that Enterprise would not be even close to what it was. We are afraid that those who will buy Enterprise will layoff many of us. Do you believe that we should worry? Who will be a better choice for the employees? What will happen to us if Enterprise will not be sold to anyone?

If its not sold in one piece it will be sold in bits. It really needs to happen soon. The longer it is left hanging the less confidence there is.
I agree it is very bad for employees whatever happens. Sad days.

Whether Avaya is the best case for NA employees is open to debate. I am an NA enterprise voice employee and we have been living in fear of an Avaya purchase for some time now. Of all the bidders it is my understanding that Avaya has the greatest amount of overlap, and they are clearly interesting more in our install base than our products. Siemens, on the other hand, is looking to expand their North American operations.

IMHO, the best case is a private equity firm that thinks it can make a go of the business provided a smart management team is in place. But hey, I'm looking out for my own best interests at this point…

Avaya is probably the worst buyer for Nortel amongst the bidders but namely for every Nortel customers and employees out there. Avaya's closed architecture means that Nortel customers would have to be forklifted if they didn't leave on their own accord. And Avaya with a large North American footprint doesn't need the employees either. Siemens/Gores on the other hand has a much smaller NA footprint than Avaya and sees it as a strategic area. Not only are their offerings much more open than Avaya, but they need more people in NA which is good for both customers and employees. And the Enterasys and Nortel products while similiar in terms of hardware typically have had their sweet spots in different verticals.

For the same reason that Nortel walked away from buying Avaya almost two years ago.
“messy, fraught with integration issues” RBC Capital Markets analyst Mark Sue
“the combination also would have posed significant challenges” UBS Investment Research analyst Nikos Theodosopoulos
“UBS imagined $250 million in synergies from a Nortel/Avaya merger over several years, with $50 million to $100 million coming in the first year. Synergies would come mainly from product-related sales, general and administrative expenses but would have been harder to find in product development and supply chain areas” UBS said.
“And while Avaya sells most of its gear directly to its customers, Nortel relies much more on resellers, making it harder for the combined company to unify and rationalize its sales channels. Avaya wouldn’t do much for Nortel’s revenue growth, either, UBS said, anticipating nearly 3% growth from Nortel next year and a little more than 4% growth from Avaya.”