Comments on: Time to Turn Out the Lights? http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/11/19/time-to-turn-out-the-lights/ All the News about Nortel Networks Thu, 09 Feb 2012 03:34:00 +0000 hourly 1 By: hangin_in_there http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/11/19/time-to-turn-out-the-lights/comment-page-1/#comment-31202 hangin_in_there Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:58:32 +0000 http://www.allaboutnortel.com/?p=1670#comment-31202 Way to go with this thread... surely we're close to the point where Godwins Law kicks in. Way to go with this thread… surely we're close to the point where Godwins Law kicks in.

]]> By: hangin_in_there http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/11/19/time-to-turn-out-the-lights/comment-page-1/#comment-4724 hangin_in_there Fri, 21 Nov 2008 08:58:32 +0000 http://www.allaboutnortel.com/?p=1670#comment-4724 Way to go with this thread... surely we're close to the point where Godwins Law kicks in. Way to go with this thread… surely we're close to the point where Godwins Law kicks in.

]]> By: Clint http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/11/19/time-to-turn-out-the-lights/comment-page-1/#comment-4723 Clint Fri, 21 Nov 2008 03:04:10 +0000 http://www.allaboutnortel.com/?p=1670#comment-4723 And for what it is worth.<br>Three words on my shit list. Multiculturalism, Tolerance and Open Borders. And for what it is worth.
Three words on my shit list. Multiculturalism, Tolerance and Open Borders.

]]> By: StillAroundForNow http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/11/19/time-to-turn-out-the-lights/comment-page-1/#comment-4710 StillAroundForNow Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:29:35 +0000 http://www.allaboutnortel.com/?p=1670#comment-4710 We have no greater enemy but ourselves. We all created this problem. Whether it is Nortel, the Nortel executive team, GM, Ford, or any other company that is starting to fall under the pressure of globalism. Yes, the corporate executives are to blame. Who else? Let me name a few. The bashers, the short sellers (yes, you are losing your jobs now too!), the many in government-union controlled "protected" jobs that like to be-little from up-high, the average citizen who would do anything to retire early (who from the Great Generation was ever allowed to do so as they fought the worlds greatest wars?) Well, we American, Canadian, Europian, etc are ALL to blame. How else do you explain the ECONOMIC downturn? Nortels faults? Sure. But we all feed at the same trough. Together. Now we all pay. WE PAY! All of us. From those who are being outsourced (sorry, everyone, Lou Dobbs has been preaching about Outsourcing America for a long time now! To those who just plain are losing their jobs, their homes, their families, and yes, even some, their lives. We must all collectively wake up. And feed ourselves. Nothing has changed. We must help each other and survive OR WE ALL WILL FAIL EVENTUALLY!. Yes, it is cold. Welcome to my world. Keep bashing everyone! So much for patriotisism! I guess that is not part of OUR generation! We have no greater enemy but ourselves. We all created this problem. Whether it is Nortel, the Nortel executive team, GM, Ford, or any other company that is starting to fall under the pressure of globalism. Yes, the corporate executives are to blame. Who else? Let me name a few. The bashers, the short sellers (yes, you are losing your jobs now too!), the many in government-union controlled “protected” jobs that like to be-little from up-high, the average citizen who would do anything to retire early (who from the Great Generation was ever allowed to do so as they fought the worlds greatest wars?) Well, we American, Canadian, Europian, etc are ALL to blame. How else do you explain the ECONOMIC downturn? Nortels faults? Sure. But we all feed at the same trough. Together. Now we all pay. WE PAY! All of us. From those who are being outsourced (sorry, everyone, Lou Dobbs has been preaching about Outsourcing America for a long time now! To those who just plain are losing their jobs, their homes, their families, and yes, even some, their lives. We must all collectively wake up. And feed ourselves. Nothing has changed. We must help each other and survive OR WE ALL WILL FAIL EVENTUALLY!. Yes, it is cold. Welcome to my world. Keep bashing everyone! So much for patriotisism! I guess that is not part of OUR generation!

]]> By: Clint http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/11/19/time-to-turn-out-the-lights/comment-page-1/#comment-4722 Clint Fri, 21 Nov 2008 01:34:07 +0000 http://www.allaboutnortel.com/?p=1670#comment-4722 Oh yea that makes alot of sense...NOT.<br>Check your history books and look at the surnames of ALL the soldiers who have died under the banner of Canada in all our wars. I would say 90 percent of them are of English, Scottish, Italian and Irish Descent. There were also Quebec names but the last real warring Quebecers did was at the plains of Abraham. So you think these guys died for idiots like turdo and his invention aptly named the charter of crap? You think these guys died for people to come into this country to change our laws and customs, wave the charter in hand, change laws, run to the human rights board, bring in their religious muslim fanaticism and more. I don't think so. Do you think these guys died to have politicans lose their minds and harass the general public with official bilingualism. Wrong Again. You could not be more wrong and insulting with that lame ass comment of yours. You must be a liberal, tree hugger, socialist, or a combination of thereof. Go out and talk to some construction guys like that or some guys down at the local legion, or in a bar for that matter.<br>Yea. What you call hate I call Fed up. Canadians, don't live up to that bullshit handle of being tolerant and naive. Oh yea that makes alot of sense…NOT.
Check your history books and look at the surnames of ALL the soldiers who have died under the banner of Canada in all our wars. I would say 90 percent of them are of English, Scottish, Italian and Irish Descent. There were also Quebec names but the last real warring Quebecers did was at the plains of Abraham. So you think these guys died for idiots like turdo and his invention aptly named the charter of crap? You think these guys died for people to come into this country to change our laws and customs, wave the charter in hand, change laws, run to the human rights board, bring in their religious muslim fanaticism and more. I don't think so. Do you think these guys died to have politicans lose their minds and harass the general public with official bilingualism. Wrong Again. You could not be more wrong and insulting with that lame ass comment of yours. You must be a liberal, tree hugger, socialist, or a combination of thereof. Go out and talk to some construction guys like that or some guys down at the local legion, or in a bar for that matter.
Yea. What you call hate I call Fed up. Canadians, don't live up to that bullshit handle of being tolerant and naive.

]]> By: Desk Jockey http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/11/19/time-to-turn-out-the-lights/comment-page-1/#comment-4746 Desk Jockey Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:45:02 +0000 http://www.allaboutnortel.com/?p=1670#comment-4746 Don't worry notafan, I never harbored any ill-will or bad feelings toward you. In fact I have no resentment against anyone on this board, even those that have viciously attacked me. (Not referring to you)<br><br>To be honest I don't worry about you as you show maturity. The ones I worry about are the ones who spout childish comments and stick to their singular line of attacks even when all sense of logic has been lost upon them.<br><br>Regards,<br><br>Desk Jockey Don't worry notafan, I never harbored any ill-will or bad feelings toward you. In fact I have no resentment against anyone on this board, even those that have viciously attacked me. (Not referring to you)

To be honest I don't worry about you as you show maturity. The ones I worry about are the ones who spout childish comments and stick to their singular line of attacks even when all sense of logic has been lost upon them.

Regards,

Desk Jockey

]]> By: Another Nortel Watcher http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/11/19/time-to-turn-out-the-lights/comment-page-1/#comment-4721 Another Nortel Watcher Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:42:52 +0000 http://www.allaboutnortel.com/?p=1670#comment-4721 Wow, so much hate. The problem with what 'Clint' suggests is that it will not benefit the majority of Canadians and it will protect those who feel entitled to sit on their butts and complain about all the things that aren't being handed to them on a platter. These people are like spoiled rich kids - they didn't earn the standard of living they enjoy, they inherited it and therefore they think it is an entitlement. A union mentality. Good luck with that folks. Wow, so much hate. The problem with what 'Clint' suggests is that it will not benefit the majority of Canadians and it will protect those who feel entitled to sit on their butts and complain about all the things that aren't being handed to them on a platter. These people are like spoiled rich kids – they didn't earn the standard of living they enjoy, they inherited it and therefore they think it is an entitlement. A union mentality. Good luck with that folks.

]]> By: exnt2 http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/11/19/time-to-turn-out-the-lights/comment-page-1/#comment-4720 exnt2 Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:44:30 +0000 http://www.allaboutnortel.com/?p=1670#comment-4720 get rid of quebec. bye bye bilingualism. with a few years they will be broke, impoverished and desperate. send in the troops and make it all one unified Canada. no special constituiton. no special nation status. no more damn bilingualism. even the French hate quebecers. get rid of quebec. bye bye bilingualism. with a few years they will be broke, impoverished and desperate. send in the troops and make it all one unified Canada. no special constituiton. no special nation status. no more damn bilingualism. even the French hate quebecers.

]]> By: exnt2 http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/11/19/time-to-turn-out-the-lights/comment-page-1/#comment-4719 exnt2 Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:41:39 +0000 http://www.allaboutnortel.com/?p=1670#comment-4719 next is water to go. next is water to go.

]]> By: yes4aapl http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/11/19/time-to-turn-out-the-lights/comment-page-1/#comment-4743 yes4aapl Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:36:05 +0000 http://www.allaboutnortel.com/?p=1670#comment-4743 Let me begin by saying that I am a loyal Nortel employee. I love this company and the people that work with me. My coworkers are some of the best and brightest in the industry. It is for this reason that I am most outraged at how Nortel has performed in the past. Not because of the employees (at least the ones I know) but because of poor leadership, again and again.<br>-----<br>re<br>I would say so about myself and I don't think I would get many positive responses to that.<br>Why Nortel is so transparent in lies, misguiding investors, reporting false numbers and expectations?<br>The last example was single digit growth in 2008. It was a lie! Let me begin by saying that I am a loyal Nortel employee. I love this company and the people that work with me. My coworkers are some of the best and brightest in the industry. It is for this reason that I am most outraged at how Nortel has performed in the past. Not because of the employees (at least the ones I know) but because of poor leadership, again and again.
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I would say so about myself and I don't think I would get many positive responses to that.
Why Nortel is so transparent in lies, misguiding investors, reporting false numbers and expectations?
The last example was single digit growth in 2008. It was a lie!

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