Comments on: Lots of Interest in BSNL Project http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/09/10/lots-of-interest-in-bsnl-project/ All the News about Nortel Networks Thu, 09 Feb 2012 03:34:00 +0000 hourly 1 By: Clint http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/09/10/lots-of-interest-in-bsnl-project/comment-page-1/#comment-31943 Clint Sat, 13 Sep 2008 05:27:45 +0000 http://www.allaboutnortel.com/?p=1292#comment-31943 I thought all they used in India were strings and tin cups?<br>I guess that is worth about six bucks per month.<br>BTW...the wage of a chinese engineer is not a tenth of a north american equivalent. Matter of fact it is 7/10 and fast approaching parity.<br>Maybe you are talking about a chopsticks factory? I thought all they used in India were strings and tin cups?
I guess that is worth about six bucks per month.
BTW…the wage of a chinese engineer is not a tenth of a north american equivalent. Matter of fact it is 7/10 and fast approaching parity.
Maybe you are talking about a chopsticks factory?

]]> By: Clint http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/09/10/lots-of-interest-in-bsnl-project/comment-page-1/#comment-6155 Clint Sat, 13 Sep 2008 01:27:45 +0000 http://www.allaboutnortel.com/?p=1292#comment-6155 I thought all they used in India were strings and tin cups?<br>I guess that is worth about six bucks per month.<br>BTW...the wage of a chinese engineer is not a tenth of a north american equivalent. Matter of fact it is 7/10 and fast approaching parity.<br>Maybe you are talking about a chopsticks factory? I thought all they used in India were strings and tin cups?
I guess that is worth about six bucks per month.
BTW…the wage of a chinese engineer is not a tenth of a north american equivalent. Matter of fact it is 7/10 and fast approaching parity.
Maybe you are talking about a chopsticks factory?

]]> By: ex-nortel^2 http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/09/10/lots-of-interest-in-bsnl-project/comment-page-1/#comment-6157 ex-nortel^2 Fri, 12 Sep 2008 00:27:33 +0000 http://www.allaboutnortel.com/?p=1292#comment-6157 <i>... except in China where the wage of an R&D engineer, etc is a tenth that of Europe or North America</i><br><br>LOL. A Chinese R&D engineer? Talk about an oxymoron. … except in China where the wage of an R&D engineer, etc is a tenth that of Europe or North America

LOL. A Chinese R&D engineer? Talk about an oxymoron.

]]> By: Link http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/09/10/lots-of-interest-in-bsnl-project/comment-page-1/#comment-6156 Link Thu, 11 Sep 2008 22:31:25 +0000 http://www.allaboutnortel.com/?p=1292#comment-6156 The number of wireless subscribers in India exceeds North America, growing by X millions each month. However, the revenue per subscriber is 1/10th or less that of North America, something like $6/month/subscriber, I believe. It takes porportionally the same amount of infrastructure to support these subscribers regardless of region, which porporotionally costs equipment vendors the same to produce (except in China where the wage of an R&D engineer, etc is a tenth that of Europe or North America). If you are looking for topline or global market share, India's a place in which to compete. If you are looking for profitability or cash flow - forgetaboutit. As ALU, NSN, Eric get squeezed in their home turf, I wonder if they will continue to subsidize business in India on an incremental basis or concede to the Chinese. And as for the Chinese, how long before these ongodly trade deficits drives up the value the Yuan vs $US and Euro, and taking with it their cost advantage. Economics has a way of reaching an equilibrium, you know. The number of wireless subscribers in India exceeds North America, growing by X millions each month. However, the revenue per subscriber is 1/10th or less that of North America, something like $6/month/subscriber, I believe. It takes porportionally the same amount of infrastructure to support these subscribers regardless of region, which porporotionally costs equipment vendors the same to produce (except in China where the wage of an R&D engineer, etc is a tenth that of Europe or North America). If you are looking for topline or global market share, India's a place in which to compete. If you are looking for profitability or cash flow – forgetaboutit. As ALU, NSN, Eric get squeezed in their home turf, I wonder if they will continue to subsidize business in India on an incremental basis or concede to the Chinese. And as for the Chinese, how long before these ongodly trade deficits drives up the value the Yuan vs $US and Euro, and taking with it their cost advantage. Economics has a way of reaching an equilibrium, you know.

]]> By: broadbandbill http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/09/10/lots-of-interest-in-bsnl-project/comment-page-1/#comment-6158 broadbandbill Thu, 11 Sep 2008 02:49:17 +0000 http://www.allaboutnortel.com/?p=1292#comment-6158 LOG,<br><br>a/a) Nortel is NOT stupid, just irrelevant. <br><br>d) Nortel will make other vendors look good by the virtue of their desperation to win anything…<br><br>x) The biggiest winner will be BSNL; they know their negotiating position is solid! LOG,

a/a) Nortel is NOT stupid, just irrelevant.

d) Nortel will make other vendors look good by the virtue of their desperation to win anything…

x) The biggiest winner will be BSNL; they know their negotiating position is solid!

]]> By: yes4aapl http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/09/10/lots-of-interest-in-bsnl-project/comment-page-1/#comment-6159 yes4aapl Thu, 11 Sep 2008 02:34:11 +0000 http://www.allaboutnortel.com/?p=1292#comment-6159 If you read the article carefully you will see that NT is not competeing with Ericsson, Nokia Siemens, and Alcatel Lucent.<br>Nortel submitted his bid against Huawei and ZTE<br>What chances Nortel has in that part?<br>from your link<br> Four parts<br><br>BSNL had divided the project into four parts. Part 1 includes setting up network for GSM based 2G mobile services.<br><br>For this, South zone received bids from Huawei, ZTE and Nortel. <br><br>and I wander if anyone can explain that article<br><a href="http://www.telegraphindia.com/1080531/jsp/jharkhand/story_9345413.jsp" rel="nofollow">http://www.telegraphindia.com/1080531/jsp/jhark...</a><br>May 30 <br>“We are replacing Nortel machinery with Ericsson equipment since the past one month. We expect the work to be over by mid-June,” said R.K. Mishra, the general manager, BSNL, Jamshedpur. If you read the article carefully you will see that NT is not competeing with Ericsson, Nokia Siemens, and Alcatel Lucent.
Nortel submitted his bid against Huawei and ZTE
What chances Nortel has in that part?
from your link
Four parts

BSNL had divided the project into four parts. Part 1 includes setting up network for GSM based 2G mobile services.

For this, South zone received bids from Huawei, ZTE and Nortel.

and I wander if anyone can explain that article
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1080531/jsp/jhark…
May 30
“We are replacing Nortel machinery with Ericsson equipment since the past one month. We expect the work to be over by mid-June,” said R.K. Mishra, the general manager, BSNL, Jamshedpur.

]]> By: Lonely Ops Guy http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/09/10/lots-of-interest-in-bsnl-project/comment-page-1/#comment-6161 Lonely Ops Guy Thu, 11 Sep 2008 01:51:20 +0000 http://www.allaboutnortel.com/?p=1292#comment-6161 Errr.....because:<br>a) NT is stupid?<br>b) Because everyone else is bidding?<br>c) Because the purpose of money is to be spent.....<br>d) Because NT will make the other vendors look good?<br>e) All of the above.<br>f) None of the above. Errr…..because:
a) NT is stupid?
b) Because everyone else is bidding?
c) Because the purpose of money is to be spent…..
d) Because NT will make the other vendors look good?
e) All of the above.
f) None of the above.

]]> By: Observer http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/09/10/lots-of-interest-in-bsnl-project/comment-page-1/#comment-6160 Observer Thu, 11 Sep 2008 01:45:29 +0000 http://www.allaboutnortel.com/?p=1292#comment-6160 The problem with doing business in India is they don't recognize that companies need to make a profit. They think everyone is made of money. So many palms have to be greased, it will end up as a losing proposition for whomever "wins". I don't even know why Nortel bid on this. The problem with doing business in India is they don't recognize that companies need to make a profit. They think everyone is made of money. So many palms have to be greased, it will end up as a losing proposition for whomever “wins”. I don't even know why Nortel bid on this.

]]> By: broadbandbill http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/09/10/lots-of-interest-in-bsnl-project/comment-page-1/#comment-6162 broadbandbill Thu, 11 Sep 2008 01:03:24 +0000 http://www.allaboutnortel.com/?p=1292#comment-6162 LOG,<br><br>Don't worry about the margins; Nortel will not get even close but they will be used to lower someone else’s margin. In fact that should be the new tag line: Nortel - Making Business Simpler for Others…--bb LOG,

Don't worry about the margins; Nortel will not get even close but they will be used to lower someone else’s margin. In fact that should be the new tag line: Nortel – Making Business Simpler for Others…–bb

]]> By: Lonely Ops Guy http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/09/10/lots-of-interest-in-bsnl-project/comment-page-1/#comment-6163 Lonely Ops Guy Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:39:10 +0000 http://www.allaboutnortel.com/?p=1292#comment-6163 BSNL again? It can be a 10bn contract...but...at what margins? BSNL again? It can be a 10bn contract…but…at what margins?

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