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		<title>By: yes4aapl</title>
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		<dc:creator>yes4aapl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 04:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys are so full of crap.&lt;br&gt;  Frank Burch    &lt;br&gt;==========&lt;br&gt;re&lt;br&gt;Read the tread    Frank Burch&lt;br&gt;It was just 3 months ago when you beliebved in single digit growth and in deferred revenues improving operational margins... that was crap not my posts!&lt;br&gt;You craped here a lot man.&lt;br&gt;Today you posted more realistic view, I would say you turned around. What about a simple apology?&lt;br&gt;btw. I said that Mike Z looked frozen long time ago. you call him a deer in the headlights.&lt;br&gt;I asked why did you pump NT stock 3 months ago. It would mislead new investors?&lt;br&gt;today you just admitted that investors are screwed.&lt;br&gt;you said today&lt;br&gt;Everybody&#039;s has gotten their way, except for the shareholders. it&#039;s been a real screw job. They hammered the shareholders so badly that now it&#039;s all coming...&lt;br&gt;What will you say today about good posts on the Bear side which you tried to bash?&lt;br&gt;i said 3 months ago&lt;br&gt;Look at new orders!&lt;br&gt;Why don&#039;t you know how to sell with profit?&lt;br&gt;What will you do next?&lt;br&gt;Ch11 and get zero for common shareholders?&lt;br&gt;Is it funny for you?&lt;br&gt;Is it funny for you to cut so many jobs?&lt;br&gt;Why Mike Z did not sell NT loong time ago with premium? It would be around $50 a share.&lt;br&gt;Why BOD does not do anything to take care of common shareholders?&lt;br&gt;I know why.&lt;br&gt;Because it&#039;s Nortel!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys are so full of crap.<br />  Frank Burch    <br />==========<br />re<br />Read the tread    Frank Burch<br />It was just 3 months ago when you beliebved in single digit growth and in deferred revenues improving operational margins&#8230; that was crap not my posts!<br />You craped here a lot man.<br />Today you posted more realistic view, I would say you turned around. What about a simple apology?<br />btw. I said that Mike Z looked frozen long time ago. you call him a deer in the headlights.<br />I asked why did you pump NT stock 3 months ago. It would mislead new investors?<br />today you just admitted that investors are screwed.<br />you said today<br />Everybody&#39;s has gotten their way, except for the shareholders. it&#39;s been a real screw job. They hammered the shareholders so badly that now it&#39;s all coming&#8230;<br />What will you say today about good posts on the Bear side which you tried to bash?<br />i said 3 months ago<br />Look at new orders!<br />Why don&#39;t you know how to sell with profit?<br />What will you do next?<br />Ch11 and get zero for common shareholders?<br />Is it funny for you?<br />Is it funny for you to cut so many jobs?<br />Why Mike Z did not sell NT loong time ago with premium? It would be around $50 a share.<br />Why BOD does not do anything to take care of common shareholders?<br />I know why.<br />Because it&#39;s Nortel!</p>
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		<title>By: yes4aapl</title>
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		<dc:creator>yes4aapl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 23:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys are so full of crap.&lt;br&gt;  Frank Burch    &lt;br&gt;==========&lt;br&gt;re&lt;br&gt;Read the tread    Frank Burch&lt;br&gt;It was just 3 months ago when you beliebved in single digit growth and in deferred revenues improving operational margins... that was crap not my posts!&lt;br&gt;You craped here a lot man.&lt;br&gt;Today you posted more realistic view, I would say you turned around. What about a simple apology?&lt;br&gt;btw. I said that Mike Z looked frozen long time ago. you call him a deer in the headlights.&lt;br&gt;I asked why did you pump NT stock 3 months ago. It would mislead new investors?&lt;br&gt;today you just admitted that investors are screwed.&lt;br&gt;you said today&lt;br&gt;Everybody&#039;s has gotten their way, except for the shareholders. it&#039;s been a real screw job. They hammered the shareholders so badly that now it&#039;s all coming...&lt;br&gt;What will you say today about good posts on the Bear side which you tried to bash?&lt;br&gt;i said 3 months ago&lt;br&gt;Look at new orders!&lt;br&gt;Why don&#039;t you know how to sell with profit?&lt;br&gt;What will you do next?&lt;br&gt;Ch11 and get zero for common shareholders?&lt;br&gt;Is it funny for you?&lt;br&gt;Is it funny for you to cut so many jobs?&lt;br&gt;Why Mike Z did not sell NT loong time ago with premium? It would be around $50 a share.&lt;br&gt;Why BOD does not do anything to take care of common shareholders?&lt;br&gt;I know why.&lt;br&gt;Because it&#039;s Nortel!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys are so full of crap.<br />  Frank Burch    <br />==========<br />re<br />Read the tread    Frank Burch<br />It was just 3 months ago when you beliebved in single digit growth and in deferred revenues improving operational margins&#8230; that was crap not my posts!<br />You craped here a lot man.<br />Today you posted more realistic view, I would say you turned around. What about a simple apology?<br />btw. I said that Mike Z looked frozen long time ago. you call him a deer in the headlights.<br />I asked why did you pump NT stock 3 months ago. It would mislead new investors?<br />today you just admitted that investors are screwed.<br />you said today<br />Everybody&#39;s has gotten their way, except for the shareholders. it&#39;s been a real screw job. They hammered the shareholders so badly that now it&#39;s all coming&#8230;<br />What will you say today about good posts on the Bear side which you tried to bash?<br />i said 3 months ago<br />Look at new orders!<br />Why don&#39;t you know how to sell with profit?<br />What will you do next?<br />Ch11 and get zero for common shareholders?<br />Is it funny for you?<br />Is it funny for you to cut so many jobs?<br />Why Mike Z did not sell NT loong time ago with premium? It would be around $50 a share.<br />Why BOD does not do anything to take care of common shareholders?<br />I know why.<br />Because it&#39;s Nortel!</p>
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		<title>By: broadbandbill</title>
		<link>http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/09/02/nortels-margins-expected-to-improve/comment-page-1/#comment-3823</link>
		<dc:creator>broadbandbill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 18:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TiC,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nothing wrong with Roese, only the position he holds. A CTO needs to be an informed and well-rounded Evangelist, which he is not (due to his lack of both Wireless and Telecom experience). He’s also too hardware-centric and talks-the-talk but hasn’t walked-the-walk on software. His insistence on MIMO-only WiMax may have potentially cost Nortel billions in revenues. That is exactly what happens when the &lt;br&gt;uninitiated rule.  Sadly, we may never know what the number might have been (billions) but we definitely know what it will be – zero! &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The right Software Architect would understand the concept of ‘Telecom Virtualization’ and create an architecture that both supports the many platforms and abstracts users from their inherent complexities. These guys are out there and I know a couple of great ones.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;bb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TiC,</p>
<p>Nothing wrong with Roese, only the position he holds. A CTO needs to be an informed and well-rounded Evangelist, which he is not (due to his lack of both Wireless and Telecom experience). He’s also too hardware-centric and talks-the-talk but hasn’t walked-the-walk on software. His insistence on MIMO-only WiMax may have potentially cost Nortel billions in revenues. That is exactly what happens when the <br />uninitiated rule.  Sadly, we may never know what the number might have been (billions) but we definitely know what it will be – zero! </p>
<p>The right Software Architect would understand the concept of ‘Telecom Virtualization’ and create an architecture that both supports the many platforms and abstracts users from their inherent complexities. These guys are out there and I know a couple of great ones.</p>
<p>bb</p>
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		<title>By: Tongue.In.Cheek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tongue.In.Cheek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 16:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BB - thanks for your 10 suggestions as now we can have a realistic discussion/debate.  I have a few general comments on your notes:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I personally like John Roese and the Evangelist role he plays.  The Evangelist role is important and I&#039;m OK with the CTO holding that function.  Work he has done to consolidate R&amp;D so that various development efforts can be re-used across multiple products is good.  Where I have concern is the next level down at the Product Management group.  I question if they are working together or working in silos with different agendas.  For instance, I think Nortel has far too many voice platforms to be really effective in the next phase of communications being based on Unified Communications and Communications Enabled Applications.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I fundamentally agree with your suggestion to hire a top notch Software Architect/Leader.  Nortel has done reasonably well with technical software embedded in machines.  However, I am concerned on if they can translate that into effective software used across many users on their desktops for day-to-day functions.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On the Press Releases, one constant of late is to have customer quotes as part of the Press Release.  I&#039;m OK with this however I think they can improve on how they get these messages out to other interested businesses so that they can hear directly from their peers in their respective industries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BB &#8211; thanks for your 10 suggestions as now we can have a realistic discussion/debate.  I have a few general comments on your notes:</p>
<p>I personally like John Roese and the Evangelist role he plays.  The Evangelist role is important and I&#39;m OK with the CTO holding that function.  Work he has done to consolidate R&#038;D so that various development efforts can be re-used across multiple products is good.  Where I have concern is the next level down at the Product Management group.  I question if they are working together or working in silos with different agendas.  For instance, I think Nortel has far too many voice platforms to be really effective in the next phase of communications being based on Unified Communications and Communications Enabled Applications.</p>
<p>I fundamentally agree with your suggestion to hire a top notch Software Architect/Leader.  Nortel has done reasonably well with technical software embedded in machines.  However, I am concerned on if they can translate that into effective software used across many users on their desktops for day-to-day functions.</p>
<p>On the Press Releases, one constant of late is to have customer quotes as part of the Press Release.  I&#39;m OK with this however I think they can improve on how they get these messages out to other interested businesses so that they can hear directly from their peers in their respective industries.</p>
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		<title>By: broadbandbill</title>
		<link>http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/09/02/nortels-margins-expected-to-improve/comment-page-1/#comment-3824</link>
		<dc:creator>broadbandbill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 16:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tired,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You don’t work for the National Security Agency so STOP listening and START implementing!!!!  Btw, I’m pretty Tired too of seeing a once-great company and the only hope the market had against Borg being decimated by processes instead of creativity. I hate Cisco, and you should too, so do something about it!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;--bb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tired,</p>
<p>You don’t work for the National Security Agency so STOP listening and START implementing!!!!  Btw, I’m pretty Tired too of seeing a once-great company and the only hope the market had against Borg being decimated by processes instead of creativity. I hate Cisco, and you should too, so do something about it!</p>
<p>&#8211;bb</p>
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		<title>By: NewBlue</title>
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		<dc:creator>NewBlue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 14:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Where do you work New Blue?&lt;br&gt;Are you and your team patenting cold fusion or how the human brain can transmit viewable images to a monitor?&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ex-Nortel. Had enough and left. And your quoted commentary is an excellent example of the mindset that is bringing Nortel down: Innovation? Don&#039;t need it. Vision? Can&#039;t sell vision.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nortel should begin looking into cold fusion -- telecomm cold fusion. Instead, Nortel is still smacking steel and Clint...er, flint to get a spark. Meanwhile, the rest of the telecomm industry is looking to deliver the future. Clint and Nortel are stuck in the ancient past.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Take your pom-poms and exit stage left, Clint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Where do you work New Blue?<br />Are you and your team patenting cold fusion or how the human brain can transmit viewable images to a monitor?&#8221;</p>
<p>Ex-Nortel. Had enough and left. And your quoted commentary is an excellent example of the mindset that is bringing Nortel down: Innovation? Don&#39;t need it. Vision? Can&#39;t sell vision.</p>
<p>Nortel should begin looking into cold fusion &#8212; telecomm cold fusion. Instead, Nortel is still smacking steel and Clint&#8230;er, flint to get a spark. Meanwhile, the rest of the telecomm industry is looking to deliver the future. Clint and Nortel are stuck in the ancient past.</p>
<p>Take your pom-poms and exit stage left, Clint.</p>
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		<title>By: Tired</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tired</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BB - I&#039;m listening, and thanks for offering critical commentary and intelligent suggestions while staying above the fray.  It&#039;s appreciated by myself and I&#039;m sure many silent others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BB &#8211; I&#39;m listening, and thanks for offering critical commentary and intelligent suggestions while staying above the fray.  It&#39;s appreciated by myself and I&#39;m sure many silent others.</p>
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		<title>By: puddintane</title>
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		<dc:creator>puddintane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been hearing from guys at my former location of employ that, while the site long ago met its official quota of layoffs, theres really not enough work coming down the pipe now, today, for management to justify retaining all of them through the fourth quarter. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A bunch of contractors are supposedly getting the boot. The good folks training their IBM colleagues to replace them are next - all pretty much off the record.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Clint appears to believe that the legacy equipment Nortel shipped abroad will come back because the foreigners suck at it, and the fresh, young, new blue hires all full of vim and vigor will set it right back up.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So,again, if i were sitting here with extra cash begat from a generous severance package and looking to invest it, would I trust MIke Z&#039;s prophecies,  the analysts&#039; words,  the word on the street or all of the above, you know: &quot;Trust. But verify&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;ve been hearing from guys at my former location of employ that, while the site long ago met its official quota of layoffs, theres really not enough work coming down the pipe now, today, for management to justify retaining all of them through the fourth quarter. </p>
<p>A bunch of contractors are supposedly getting the boot. The good folks training their IBM colleagues to replace them are next &#8211; all pretty much off the record.</p>
<p>Clint appears to believe that the legacy equipment Nortel shipped abroad will come back because the foreigners suck at it, and the fresh, young, new blue hires all full of vim and vigor will set it right back up.  </p>
<p>So,again, if i were sitting here with extra cash begat from a generous severance package and looking to invest it, would I trust MIke Z&#39;s prophecies,  the analysts&#39; words,  the word on the street or all of the above, you know: &#8220;Trust. But verify&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: broadbandbill</title>
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		<dc:creator>broadbandbill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 02:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ANW&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My comments about Hackney and Riedel (related) to his boss; word for word: &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“Unfortunately and somewhat unfairly, Mr. Hackney’s parking lot experience will precede him wherever he goes and, as such, he will not be taken as a credible leader nor would he make an effective Nortel ambassador. Besides, I think he is much better suited as a supply-chain guy (processes/inbound) as opposed to a product line guy (customers/outbound).”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;And while we are at it let’s give credit for the strength in the enterprise business where it really belongs: George Riedel. Nortel had no viable enterprise business or strategy before his arrival. That was one of your better hires. Too bad he is not paired up with an enterprise rock star; if he were you may even see triple digit growth in that space.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;See, it&#039;s not ALL negative :) but still no one is listening...-- bb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ANW</p>
<p>My comments about Hackney and Riedel (related) to his boss; word for word: </p>
<p>“Unfortunately and somewhat unfairly, Mr. Hackney’s parking lot experience will precede him wherever he goes and, as such, he will not be taken as a credible leader nor would he make an effective Nortel ambassador. Besides, I think he is much better suited as a supply-chain guy (processes/inbound) as opposed to a product line guy (customers/outbound).”</p>
<p>&#8220;And while we are at it let’s give credit for the strength in the enterprise business where it really belongs: George Riedel. Nortel had no viable enterprise business or strategy before his arrival. That was one of your better hires. Too bad he is not paired up with an enterprise rock star; if he were you may even see triple digit growth in that space.&#8221;</p>
<p>See, it&#39;s not ALL negative <img src='http://www.allaboutnortel.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  but still no one is listening&#8230;&#8211; bb</p>
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		<title>By: Clint</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 02:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So many clowns on here..so full of S**T.&lt;br&gt;We have yes4appl..a noted nortel basher, predicting 3k to 5k in layoffs this year.&lt;br&gt;Mark my words he says..mark him with a bullseye maybe.&lt;br&gt;This known nortel basher fails to mention nortel is always hiring new grads and they outpace the departures of people laid off.&lt;br&gt;Sure North America isn&#039;t growing like india, china, mexico, or turkey. But those places are falling on their faces fast and there will be a rebound effect.&lt;br&gt;Then we have New Blue.&lt;br&gt;Where do you work New Blue?&lt;br&gt;Are you and your team patenting cold fusion or how the human brain can transmit viewable images to a monitor?&lt;br&gt;Give me a break.&lt;br&gt;With friends like him, who needs enemies.&lt;br&gt;Another Crock.&lt;br&gt;Unless any of you suckups have a vested interest in nortel or work there your opinion really means diddly.  If you left or got sacked, move on and do something useful.&lt;br&gt;At least admit your past involvement, current involvment or what is to be gained by your &lt;br&gt;B.S.&lt;br&gt;This is just a board for ranting.&lt;br&gt;The title said Nortel Margins expected to improve and most of the posts below are from crybabies.&lt;br&gt;If you want to slam the place at least give a reason why. &lt;br&gt;I know I would.&lt;br&gt;Talk is cheap, but unsubstantiated talk that is just intent on bashing is even cheaper.&lt;br&gt;Speak from a personal experience or STFU.&lt;br&gt;You bore me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So many clowns on here..so full of S**T.<br />We have yes4appl..a noted nortel basher, predicting 3k to 5k in layoffs this year.<br />Mark my words he says..mark him with a bullseye maybe.<br />This known nortel basher fails to mention nortel is always hiring new grads and they outpace the departures of people laid off.<br />Sure North America isn&#39;t growing like india, china, mexico, or turkey. But those places are falling on their faces fast and there will be a rebound effect.<br />Then we have New Blue.<br />Where do you work New Blue?<br />Are you and your team patenting cold fusion or how the human brain can transmit viewable images to a monitor?<br />Give me a break.<br />With friends like him, who needs enemies.<br />Another Crock.<br />Unless any of you suckups have a vested interest in nortel or work there your opinion really means diddly.  If you left or got sacked, move on and do something useful.<br />At least admit your past involvement, current involvment or what is to be gained by your <br />B.S.<br />This is just a board for ranting.<br />The title said Nortel Margins expected to improve and most of the posts below are from crybabies.<br />If you want to slam the place at least give a reason why. <br />I know I would.<br />Talk is cheap, but unsubstantiated talk that is just intent on bashing is even cheaper.<br />Speak from a personal experience or STFU.<br />You bore me.</p>
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