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	<title>Comments on: Liveblogged: Mike Z.&#8217;s Keynote</title>
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		<title>By: Limeoid.</title>
		<link>http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/06/03/liveblogged-mike-zs-keynote/comment-page-1/#comment-31988</link>
		<dc:creator>Limeoid.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 06:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so is the lg/nortel venture generating money?&lt;br&gt;If so ...how much?&lt;br&gt;what products do they put out?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so is the lg/nortel venture generating money?<br />If so &#8230;how much?<br />what products do they put out?</p>
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		<title>By: Limeoid.</title>
		<link>http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/06/03/liveblogged-mike-zs-keynote/comment-page-1/#comment-6341</link>
		<dc:creator>Limeoid.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 02:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so is the lg/nortel venture generating money?&lt;br&gt;If so ...how much?&lt;br&gt;what products do they put out?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so is the lg/nortel venture generating money?<br />If so &#8230;how much?<br />what products do they put out?</p>
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		<title>By: another nortel watcher</title>
		<link>http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/06/03/liveblogged-mike-zs-keynote/comment-page-1/#comment-6342</link>
		<dc:creator>another nortel watcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 22:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TIC. I think there is lots of investors on this blog who are paying the salary of many people at Nortel. Just keep that in mind when you respond. the fact remains that MikeZ and his cluless GE management have introduced nothing to the company and the industry other than very long blogs and some basic accounting improvements. 3 years after Z came in, Nortel value continued to decline. We love this company, but yes, we do not trust its management.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TIC. I think there is lots of investors on this blog who are paying the salary of many people at Nortel. Just keep that in mind when you respond. the fact remains that MikeZ and his cluless GE management have introduced nothing to the company and the industry other than very long blogs and some basic accounting improvements. 3 years after Z came in, Nortel value continued to decline. We love this company, but yes, we do not trust its management.</p>
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		<title>By: Another Nortel Watcher</title>
		<link>http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/06/03/liveblogged-mike-zs-keynote/comment-page-1/#comment-6343</link>
		<dc:creator>Another Nortel Watcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 07:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>T.I.C. - believe what you want but the Microsoft ICA was an initiative of Owens, as was the LG JV.  Note that Owens&#039; previous CEO role was in Seattle and he and Gates/Ballmer served on boards together.  By the time MZ arrived, the deal was with the lawyers and accountants to work out the details.  MZ seems to be a master at stepping in and taking the credit for others work.  Owens initiated the Msft and LG relationships.  What can we point to that MZ can legitimately stake a claim to?  I can&#039;t think of anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T.I.C. &#8211; believe what you want but the Microsoft ICA was an initiative of Owens, as was the LG JV.  Note that Owens&#39; previous CEO role was in Seattle and he and Gates/Ballmer served on boards together.  By the time MZ arrived, the deal was with the lawyers and accountants to work out the details.  MZ seems to be a master at stepping in and taking the credit for others work.  Owens initiated the Msft and LG relationships.  What can we point to that MZ can legitimately stake a claim to?  I can&#39;t think of anything.</p>
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		<title>By: many</title>
		<link>http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/06/03/liveblogged-mike-zs-keynote/comment-page-1/#comment-6346</link>
		<dc:creator>many</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 02:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tongue &lt;br&gt;That was Mike Z? I thought it was Frado :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tongue <br />That was Mike Z? I thought it was Frado <img src='http://www.allaboutnortel.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ex-nt</title>
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		<dc:creator>ex-nt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 22:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LG JV was pre-Zafo.  Microsoft partnership (the real thing, not just the earlier press release partnership) was post-Zafo.  The LG JV seems to be generating $, no idea whats happening with Microsoft.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LG JV was pre-Zafo.  Microsoft partnership (the real thing, not just the earlier press release partnership) was post-Zafo.  The LG JV seems to be generating $, no idea whats happening with Microsoft.</p>
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		<title>By: Tongue.In.Cheek</title>
		<link>http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/06/03/liveblogged-mike-zs-keynote/comment-page-1/#comment-6345</link>
		<dc:creator>Tongue.In.Cheek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 15:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ANW - thanks for yet another example of false information posted on this blog.  The Innovative Communications Alliance (Nortel - Microsoft Alliance) was announced jointly by Ballmer and Zafirovski on July 18, 2006.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.innovativecommunicationsalliance.com/about.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.innovativecommunicationsalliance.com...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I understand that you hate Nortel, but what point is there in posting completely false information that is easily researched.... Oh ... I know ... This is the All About Nortel Blog... where false and misleading information about Nortel is standard operating procedure.  Well done!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ANW &#8211; thanks for yet another example of false information posted on this blog.  The Innovative Communications Alliance (Nortel &#8211; Microsoft Alliance) was announced jointly by Ballmer and Zafirovski on July 18, 2006.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.innovativecommunicationsalliance.com/about.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.innovativecommunicationsalliance.com&#8230;</a></p>
<p>I understand that you hate Nortel, but what point is there in posting completely false information that is easily researched&#8230;. Oh &#8230; I know &#8230; This is the All About Nortel Blog&#8230; where false and misleading information about Nortel is standard operating procedure.  Well done!</p>
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		<title>By: Another Nortel Watcher</title>
		<link>http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/06/03/liveblogged-mike-zs-keynote/comment-page-1/#comment-6347</link>
		<dc:creator>Another Nortel Watcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 04:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>exnt2 - you make a very good point.  Both the LG-Nortel JV and the Microsoft partnership were programs in place when MZ and his GEniuses arrived.  All they can take credit for is not getting in the way (kind of like MZ not getting in the way of the Razor when at Moto).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So what *new* initiatives can we point to from the last three years that these guys have developed?  Anything besides cost-cutting or nebulous hype like &#039;hyperconnectivity&#039;?  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Me thinks the well will run dry pretty soon.  The innovators who know how to turn ideas into businesses are gone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>exnt2 &#8211; you make a very good point.  Both the LG-Nortel JV and the Microsoft partnership were programs in place when MZ and his GEniuses arrived.  All they can take credit for is not getting in the way (kind of like MZ not getting in the way of the Razor when at Moto).</p>
<p>So what *new* initiatives can we point to from the last three years that these guys have developed?  Anything besides cost-cutting or nebulous hype like &#39;hyperconnectivity&#39;?  </p>
<p>Me thinks the well will run dry pretty soon.  The innovators who know how to turn ideas into businesses are gone.</p>
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		<title>By: many</title>
		<link>http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/06/03/liveblogged-mike-zs-keynote/comment-page-1/#comment-6349</link>
		<dc:creator>many</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 19:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree there used to be a partnership between the developers and the testers.........wait! development has been off shored too!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I just want to see what happens when the North American market for telecom goes through the roof again because of high gas prices. Will people want to work for a company like NT again? Will they tell them they want more that &quot;market&quot; money? Will they tell them to %#$&amp; off?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree there used to be a partnership between the developers and the testers&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;wait! development has been off shored too!</p>
<p>I just want to see what happens when the North American market for telecom goes through the roof again because of high gas prices. Will people want to work for a company like NT again? Will they tell them they want more that &#8220;market&#8221; money? Will they tell them to %#$&#038; off?</p>
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		<title>By: exnt2</title>
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		<dc:creator>exnt2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 17:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LG was before Z&#039;s time. Rest everything is in shambles. world class R&amp;D tsk. its been decimated with all the testing / verification now going offshore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LG was before Z&#39;s time. Rest everything is in shambles. world class R&#038;D tsk. its been decimated with all the testing / verification now going offshore.</p>
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