Comments on: Nortel to Rejig R&D http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/03/27/nortel-to-rejig-rd/ All the News about Nortel Networks Thu, 09 Feb 2012 03:34:00 +0000 hourly 1 By: Rob the Fiddler » Blog Archive » Nortel in Beijing http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/03/27/nortel-to-rejig-rd/comment-page-1/#comment-2307 Rob the Fiddler » Blog Archive » Nortel in Beijing Sat, 19 Apr 2008 02:40:10 +0000 http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/03/27/nortel-to-rejig-rd/#comment-2307 [...] that are taking over my project.  If your not up on your Nortel News, its part of their plan to transition jobs to lower cost centers.  They are not cutting jobs….just moving them. The end result for me is the same. After a [...] [...] that are taking over my project.  If your not up on your Nortel News, its part of their plan to transition jobs to lower cost centers.  They are not cutting jobs….just moving them. The end result for me is the same. After a [...]

]]> By: many http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/03/27/nortel-to-rejig-rd/comment-page-1/#comment-31291 many Wed, 02 Apr 2008 07:51:44 +0000 http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/03/27/nortel-to-rejig-rd/#comment-31291 inalmm; Your first point has been true for a long time (20 years or more). The USA's chief export is standard of living. <br><br>That said, I detect a change in my customers attitude. I see that they have been playing around with services in their networks, seeing which demand high avaialblity, which do not. Which vendors can deliver product and services in a reasonable timeframe with reasonable quality. As well the tier one network providers will go to great expense to provide their network services to international roamers. The pool of available workers in the US is shrinking rapidly due to the generational change and operators pay lots of money to reduce the number of employees they depend on. It is not theory when I say equipment cost is not the main factor in the tier one and two networks in the US and Canada.<br><br>My experiance in asiapac has been different; cost is the major factor. This is especially true where labor is cheap and paying money to make a back office or network more efficent is higher than hiring more people. There are also cultual inalmm; Your first point has been true for a long time (20 years or more). The USA's chief export is standard of living.

That said, I detect a change in my customers attitude. I see that they have been playing around with services in their networks, seeing which demand high avaialblity, which do not. Which vendors can deliver product and services in a reasonable timeframe with reasonable quality. As well the tier one network providers will go to great expense to provide their network services to international roamers. The pool of available workers in the US is shrinking rapidly due to the generational change and operators pay lots of money to reduce the number of employees they depend on. It is not theory when I say equipment cost is not the main factor in the tier one and two networks in the US and Canada.

My experiance in asiapac has been different; cost is the major factor. This is especially true where labor is cheap and paying money to make a back office or network more efficent is higher than hiring more people. There are also cultual

]]> By: many http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/03/27/nortel-to-rejig-rd/comment-page-1/#comment-4596 many Wed, 02 Apr 2008 03:51:44 +0000 http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/03/27/nortel-to-rejig-rd/#comment-4596 inalmm; Your first point has been true for a long time (20 years or more). The USA's chief export is standard of living. <br><br>That said, I detect a change in my customers attitude. I see that they have been playing around with services in their networks, seeing which demand high avaialblity, which do not. Which vendors can deliver product and services in a reasonable timeframe with reasonable quality. As well the tier one network providers will go to great expense to provide their network services to international roamers. The pool of available workers in the US is shrinking rapidly due to the generational change and operators pay lots of money to reduce the number of employees they depend on. It is not theory when I say equipment cost is not the main factor in the tier one and two networks in the US and Canada.<br><br>My experiance in asiapac has been different; cost is the major factor. This is especially true where labor is cheap and paying money to make a back office or network more efficent is higher than hiring more people. There are also cultual inalmm; Your first point has been true for a long time (20 years or more). The USA's chief export is standard of living.

That said, I detect a change in my customers attitude. I see that they have been playing around with services in their networks, seeing which demand high avaialblity, which do not. Which vendors can deliver product and services in a reasonable timeframe with reasonable quality. As well the tier one network providers will go to great expense to provide their network services to international roamers. The pool of available workers in the US is shrinking rapidly due to the generational change and operators pay lots of money to reduce the number of employees they depend on. It is not theory when I say equipment cost is not the main factor in the tier one and two networks in the US and Canada.

My experiance in asiapac has been different; cost is the major factor. This is especially true where labor is cheap and paying money to make a back office or network more efficent is higher than hiring more people. There are also cultual

]]> By: inalmm http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/03/27/nortel-to-rejig-rd/comment-page-1/#comment-4595 inalmm Tue, 01 Apr 2008 19:03:49 +0000 http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/03/27/nortel-to-rejig-rd/#comment-4595 many: are you aware of the US trade deficit? US is importing more goods and services then it exports. your theory seems irrelevant whit that respect. cost efficiency is the key factor. many: are you aware of the US trade deficit? US is importing more goods and services then it exports. your theory seems irrelevant whit that respect. cost efficiency is the key factor.

]]> By: Observer http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/03/27/nortel-to-rejig-rd/comment-page-1/#comment-4559 Observer Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:17:37 +0000 http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/03/27/nortel-to-rejig-rd/#comment-4559 Here is a link to Roese's blog<br><br><a href="http://blogs.nortel.com/ctoblog/2008/03/28/the-transformation-of-rd-at-nortel/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.nortel.com/ctoblog/2008/03/28/the-...</a> Here is a link to Roese's blog

http://blogs.nortel.com/ctoblog/2008/03/28/the-…

]]> By: Observer http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/03/27/nortel-to-rejig-rd/comment-page-1/#comment-4560 Observer Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:16:47 +0000 http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/03/27/nortel-to-rejig-rd/#comment-4560 Yes its about royalties but the truth of the matter is most patent litigation in telecom ends up in cross licensing agreements where many companies win. See Qualcomm, Broadcom, Nokia, Motorola and Intel for these. And at its core, no one at the USPTO really knows the differences between any one of these patents as there is so much overlap in what they grant without realizing it. This is why a company like Vonage can get sued repeatedly by Nortel, Broadcom and others and be forced to settle out of court. Yes its PR but its also revenue from cross licensing agreements. Yes its about royalties but the truth of the matter is most patent litigation in telecom ends up in cross licensing agreements where many companies win. See Qualcomm, Broadcom, Nokia, Motorola and Intel for these. And at its core, no one at the USPTO really knows the differences between any one of these patents as there is so much overlap in what they grant without realizing it. This is why a company like Vonage can get sued repeatedly by Nortel, Broadcom and others and be forced to settle out of court. Yes its PR but its also revenue from cross licensing agreements.

]]> By: ex-nortel^2 http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/03/27/nortel-to-rejig-rd/comment-page-1/#comment-4561 ex-nortel^2 Sun, 30 Mar 2008 19:37:09 +0000 http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/03/27/nortel-to-rejig-rd/#comment-4561 Royalties, gentlemen. It's about _royalties_. Not the _number_ of patents generated. Patents generating revenue are what is important. To our small company, anyway.<br><br>I've seen small groups play round robin on who gets first name in the patent application and churn them out on every trivial little thing they come up with. They do get recognition internally, and it helps them keep their jobs. But in the real world there is no real contribution in any meaningful way. The granted and applied for patents are just good for PR.<br><br>Our small company has interviewed applicants with quite a number of patents listed on their resume. But when we inquire about royalties these patents have generated, or verifiable revenue generated from them, You hit a brick wall. I've had a single exception, and he works for us now.<br><br>It's all PR for a company like Nortel. It's only PR. Royalties, gentlemen. It's about _royalties_. Not the _number_ of patents generated. Patents generating revenue are what is important. To our small company, anyway.

I've seen small groups play round robin on who gets first name in the patent application and churn them out on every trivial little thing they come up with. They do get recognition internally, and it helps them keep their jobs. But in the real world there is no real contribution in any meaningful way. The granted and applied for patents are just good for PR.

Our small company has interviewed applicants with quite a number of patents listed on their resume. But when we inquire about royalties these patents have generated, or verifiable revenue generated from them, You hit a brick wall. I've had a single exception, and he works for us now.

It's all PR for a company like Nortel. It's only PR.

]]> By: Observer http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/03/27/nortel-to-rejig-rd/comment-page-1/#comment-4562 Observer Sun, 30 Mar 2008 18:15:01 +0000 http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/03/27/nortel-to-rejig-rd/#comment-4562 Both. Nortel has many many patents in wireless and optical technologies for next generation networks that have been filed and awarded over the last few years. Both. Nortel has many many patents in wireless and optical technologies for next generation networks that have been filed and awarded over the last few years.

]]> By: NewBlue http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/03/27/nortel-to-rejig-rd/comment-page-1/#comment-4563 NewBlue Sun, 30 Mar 2008 14:58:40 +0000 http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/03/27/nortel-to-rejig-rd/#comment-4563 Filings? Or awards?<br><br>You can file patents all day long, but if they a) aren't actually awarded, and/or b) don't result in any new product development, then our innovators and visionaries aren't all they are cracked up to be. Filings? Or awards?

You can file patents all day long, but if they a) aren't actually awarded, and/or b) don't result in any new product development, then our innovators and visionaries aren't all they are cracked up to be.

]]> By: Observer http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/03/27/nortel-to-rejig-rd/comment-page-1/#comment-4564 Observer Sun, 30 Mar 2008 03:58:40 +0000 http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2008/03/27/nortel-to-rejig-rd/#comment-4564 There are no technical visionaries left. There are those who think they are, but results would say there isn't.<br>--<br><br>The number of patent filings from Nortel would say otherwise. Still in the top 5 in the industry. There are no technical visionaries left. There are those who think they are, but results would say there isn't.
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The number of patent filings from Nortel would say otherwise. Still in the top 5 in the industry.

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