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		<title>By: Lorenzo</title>
		<link>http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2006/06/27/nortel-cutting-1100-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-208</link>
		<dc:creator>Lorenzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 00:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I worked for Nortel for nearly 20 years before layoff came to me in 2001.

Where do I go to collect my pension????

anyone, please advise!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worked for Nortel for nearly 20 years before layoff came to me in 2001.</p>
<p>Where do I go to collect my pension????</p>
<p>anyone, please advise!</p>
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		<title>By: David Harding</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Harding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 17:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: Anonymous Nortel employee says, &quot;Name an innovation that came out of India?&quot;

Here&#039;s one: Raman Spectroscopy in the 1930&#039;s.  Sir Raman won a Nobel Prize for discovering that intense monochromatic light interacts with molecules that have vibrational energy and gets scattered at a higher wavelength.

So what does that mean today?  Well, I distribute a globally patented portable laser technology that uses this principle in physics to non-invasively measure key nutritional antioxidants in the cells of your body and gives you an overall indication of your antioxidant status in less than three minutes.  No blood, no pain and at the end location - the tissue.  It has never been possible to do anything like this before.  This is a gigantic breakthrough in the health and wellness industry.  So huge in fact that it is permanently changing the way we look at nutrition and vitamin supplementation forever.

I should also mention that in my line of work I receive compensation whenever consumers purchase scientifically formulated supplements that are guaranteed to raise their score, as measured by our exclusive scanner technology, or their money back.  I own my own business, don&#039;t carry any inventory, the products are automatically shipped directly to consumers in over 40 countries on a monthly basis and I work from the convenience of my home.

This may not sound like a traditional business model or financially significant to some engineers, but consider this, would you rather get paid a salary once for developing a disruptive technology that consolidates an entire global market segment that is expanding and makes all other competitors obsolete overnight, or a small piece of all of the revenues generated by that revolutionary technology while it operates in the field year after year?  One scenario is a job and the other is wealth creation.

Right now this project is still in its infancy but doubling in size every year as a direct result of the patented scanner technology.  It is backed by a publicly traded 23 year-old parent company with a successful track record, deep pockets, cash on hand, no long-term debt and a &quot;Force for Good&quot; corporate culture.

I&#039;m looking for people who are ready to consider looking at something fresh related to their field that, if they like what they see, could provide them with a sizeable recurring income stream now and into their retirement.  Please check out the tour at my website and contact me via my link if you&#039;d wish to investigate this opportunity further: www.nuglobalmonopoly.com/davidharding

I hope that everyone out there who is looking for a better situation finds one.  And I would like to thank Sir Raman from India for his Nobel Prize wining discovery that is going to improve the health of millions of people around the world and give those that get involved in the deployment of the nutritional laser scanner a bright and secure financial future.

All the best!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: Anonymous Nortel employee says, &#8220;Name an innovation that came out of India?&#8221;</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s one: Raman Spectroscopy in the 1930&#8242;s.  Sir Raman won a Nobel Prize for discovering that intense monochromatic light interacts with molecules that have vibrational energy and gets scattered at a higher wavelength.</p>
<p>So what does that mean today?  Well, I distribute a globally patented portable laser technology that uses this principle in physics to non-invasively measure key nutritional antioxidants in the cells of your body and gives you an overall indication of your antioxidant status in less than three minutes.  No blood, no pain and at the end location &#8211; the tissue.  It has never been possible to do anything like this before.  This is a gigantic breakthrough in the health and wellness industry.  So huge in fact that it is permanently changing the way we look at nutrition and vitamin supplementation forever.</p>
<p>I should also mention that in my line of work I receive compensation whenever consumers purchase scientifically formulated supplements that are guaranteed to raise their score, as measured by our exclusive scanner technology, or their money back.  I own my own business, don&#8217;t carry any inventory, the products are automatically shipped directly to consumers in over 40 countries on a monthly basis and I work from the convenience of my home.</p>
<p>This may not sound like a traditional business model or financially significant to some engineers, but consider this, would you rather get paid a salary once for developing a disruptive technology that consolidates an entire global market segment that is expanding and makes all other competitors obsolete overnight, or a small piece of all of the revenues generated by that revolutionary technology while it operates in the field year after year?  One scenario is a job and the other is wealth creation.</p>
<p>Right now this project is still in its infancy but doubling in size every year as a direct result of the patented scanner technology.  It is backed by a publicly traded 23 year-old parent company with a successful track record, deep pockets, cash on hand, no long-term debt and a &#8220;Force for Good&#8221; corporate culture.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m looking for people who are ready to consider looking at something fresh related to their field that, if they like what they see, could provide them with a sizeable recurring income stream now and into their retirement.  Please check out the tour at my website and contact me via my link if you&#8217;d wish to investigate this opportunity further: <a href="http://www.nuglobalmonopoly.com/davidharding" rel="nofollow">http://www.nuglobalmonopoly.com/davidharding</a></p>
<p>I hope that everyone out there who is looking for a better situation finds one.  And I would like to thank Sir Raman from India for his Nobel Prize wining discovery that is going to improve the health of millions of people around the world and give those that get involved in the deployment of the nutritional laser scanner a bright and secure financial future.</p>
<p>All the best!</p>
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		<title>By: Nortel ?</title>
		<link>http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2006/06/27/nortel-cutting-1100-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-192</link>
		<dc:creator>Nortel ?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 19:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I left Nortel in 1998,in one of the layoffs..after 13 years.. i got my 401K
but could not get my pension money at that time.sept of 1998. Come to learn
that &quot;end&quot; of that year or early 1999 people leaving were able to get their pension /i called Nortel HR etc.. they said plan changed &amp; i would have to wait
till i was 57 or 64 years old or something... i have not received any statement
or anything in the mail.JUST curious if anyone have any info: on this subject etc.
Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I left Nortel in 1998,in one of the layoffs..after 13 years.. i got my 401K<br />
but could not get my pension money at that time.sept of 1998. Come to learn<br />
that &#8220;end&#8221; of that year or early 1999 people leaving were able to get their pension /i called Nortel HR etc.. they said plan changed &amp; i would have to wait<br />
till i was 57 or 64 years old or something&#8230; i have not received any statement<br />
or anything in the mail.JUST curious if anyone have any info: on this subject etc.<br />
Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Ming Chu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ming Chu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 20:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Recently, I received Nortel stock class action
 notification, how about Nortel stock  in 401K,
anyone knows?
 Ming</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently, I received Nortel stock class action<br />
 notification, how about Nortel stock  in 401K,<br />
anyone knows?<br />
 Ming</p>
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		<title>By: former nortel guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>former nortel guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this blog is extremely interesting. All the topics about nortel (whether on or off topics) can be found in this single but long page.
   As a former Nortel guy, I survived in the worst date, and the only reward from Nortel is the sponsorship of my green card. With average 1% increase of my salary over 6 years (count on the 3 years frozen).
   The truth is Nortel may not be a very nice place if you want to WORK, but really nice place if you want to RELAX, even the darkest day, I can code only 500 lines for the whole year.
   Even more surprise, Nortel even keep bunch of guys like me for years, the standard for their layoff is keep the sequence of salary, age, relationship to manager, then productivity. I think the only reason I can survive is because of the lower wage.
   I wonder I will totally forgot how to code if I stay three more years in Nortel,  the only good reason for the leaving is you must to survive, and not much place will be the same as in Nortel.
   Now, I am the core engineer in a small but profitable company, different altitude to my work, not much complaints, I can win respect by complete the key project in time (which the dream for my Nortel career). The single big loss for my Nortel career is I didn&#039;t have chance to wait for the big fat pink slip with 5 digits check.
   What a shame, but no regret.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this blog is extremely interesting. All the topics about nortel (whether on or off topics) can be found in this single but long page.<br />
   As a former Nortel guy, I survived in the worst date, and the only reward from Nortel is the sponsorship of my green card. With average 1% increase of my salary over 6 years (count on the 3 years frozen).<br />
   The truth is Nortel may not be a very nice place if you want to WORK, but really nice place if you want to RELAX, even the darkest day, I can code only 500 lines for the whole year.<br />
   Even more surprise, Nortel even keep bunch of guys like me for years, the standard for their layoff is keep the sequence of salary, age, relationship to manager, then productivity. I think the only reason I can survive is because of the lower wage.<br />
   I wonder I will totally forgot how to code if I stay three more years in Nortel,  the only good reason for the leaving is you must to survive, and not much place will be the same as in Nortel.<br />
   Now, I am the core engineer in a small but profitable company, different altitude to my work, not much complaints, I can win respect by complete the key project in time (which the dream for my Nortel career). The single big loss for my Nortel career is I didn&#8217;t have chance to wait for the big fat pink slip with 5 digits check.<br />
   What a shame, but no regret.</p>
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		<title>By: Nortel Survivor</title>
		<link>http://www.allaboutnortel.com/2006/06/27/nortel-cutting-1100-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-191</link>
		<dc:creator>Nortel Survivor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 19:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is clear to me that most of you responding don&#039;t have a clue.  I was Nortel employee for almost 15 years and was not deadwood or a slacker.  I worked my ass of for Nortel and had pride in what was being produced.  I asked for two years for a package but they didn&#039;t want to give it to me because I was actually productive, finally I got it and left when they were desperate to meet the &quot;numbers&quot;, I was 45 a the time.  I wanted out because it was clear to me the company was on a sprial to oblivion. At that time the only goal of Nortel was to keep up with Cisco, ergo all the acquisitions and divestures...a complete mess and financial loss!  I believe the only reason the company still exists is because of the Canadian governments favored status of their once Icon.  I often &quot;joke&quot; when will Cisco take over Nortel!  Probably never they will just let it die an agonizing death.  Most Nortel products are developed at  BNR which I believe doesn&#039;t even have a presence in CA any more, maybe RTP.  Bottom line Canadians have a different attitute about work, similar to the French, so I doubt if anything significant will ever come out of the frozen tundra.  Alliance with Microsoft has been in the works since I can remember and I don&#039;t see much from that either.  Moving things to Mexico and India is not going to solve anything.  I did a stint in Mexico for Nortel and the nationals would leave Nortel and go to the competition for dime more which made it impossible to keep a trained staff.  I was smart and took my pension in cash to avoid having anyone in Nortel screw that up as well.  My attitidue now is work when and were I want and if I don&#039;t like the way senior management is operating I move on.  I have gotten over the fear of being unemployed and now enjoy the time between jobs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is clear to me that most of you responding don&#8217;t have a clue.  I was Nortel employee for almost 15 years and was not deadwood or a slacker.  I worked my ass of for Nortel and had pride in what was being produced.  I asked for two years for a package but they didn&#8217;t want to give it to me because I was actually productive, finally I got it and left when they were desperate to meet the &#8220;numbers&#8221;, I was 45 a the time.  I wanted out because it was clear to me the company was on a sprial to oblivion. At that time the only goal of Nortel was to keep up with Cisco, ergo all the acquisitions and divestures&#8230;a complete mess and financial loss!  I believe the only reason the company still exists is because of the Canadian governments favored status of their once Icon.  I often &#8220;joke&#8221; when will Cisco take over Nortel!  Probably never they will just let it die an agonizing death.  Most Nortel products are developed at  BNR which I believe doesn&#8217;t even have a presence in CA any more, maybe RTP.  Bottom line Canadians have a different attitute about work, similar to the French, so I doubt if anything significant will ever come out of the frozen tundra.  Alliance with Microsoft has been in the works since I can remember and I don&#8217;t see much from that either.  Moving things to Mexico and India is not going to solve anything.  I did a stint in Mexico for Nortel and the nationals would leave Nortel and go to the competition for dime more which made it impossible to keep a trained staff.  I was smart and took my pension in cash to avoid having anyone in Nortel screw that up as well.  My attitidue now is work when and were I want and if I don&#8217;t like the way senior management is operating I move on.  I have gotten over the fear of being unemployed and now enjoy the time between jobs.</p>
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		<title>By: -</title>
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		<dc:creator>-</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 22:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>new common ways to save money in big companies.
company offer stock options to employees at old rates to write off as bad debts and restatement again.

employees to fire or lay off before -

the stock options to expire
funds matching is 1-for-1
employees work more than a certain years
few employees in a group (to merge or get rid)
groups not making more profits</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>new common ways to save money in big companies.<br />
company offer stock options to employees at old rates to write off as bad debts and restatement again.</p>
<p>employees to fire or lay off before -</p>
<p>the stock options to expire<br />
funds matching is 1-for-1<br />
employees work more than a certain years<br />
few employees in a group (to merge or get rid)<br />
groups not making more profits</p>
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		<title>By: -</title>
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		<dc:creator>-</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ah ..  the alliance Nortel with Microsoft ? what a sweet deal !!!

more ppl to go out sooner than expected to make the organization flatter and leaner.

******** LISTEN UP !!! after you half work on or finish your Microsoft-Nortel projects, DO NOT TAKE THOSE IPs. Microsoft attorneys will come after you and your assets or asses********

the jobs go to India and Mexico/Latin America. Microsoft is increasing staffing in those places as you read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ah ..  the alliance Nortel with Microsoft ? what a sweet deal !!!</p>
<p>more ppl to go out sooner than expected to make the organization flatter and leaner.</p>
<p>******** LISTEN UP !!! after you half work on or finish your Microsoft-Nortel projects, DO NOT TAKE THOSE IPs. Microsoft attorneys will come after you and your assets or asses********</p>
<p>the jobs go to India and Mexico/Latin America. Microsoft is increasing staffing in those places as you read.</p>
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		<title>By: fresh blood</title>
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		<dc:creator>fresh blood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 17:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lots of vets know what to do and how to do it. the problem is these people are at the lines and who cares about what they think. if this were a co like GE or Microsoft then yes senior management would be listening.

its like that the dasani ads of water filtering. 7 filters of middle management change what gets sent to the top and what should be sent down. so the first thing Nortel needs to do is show all middle managers the door. it will take 6-8 months to stabilize but people will strive to do this once they see accountability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lots of vets know what to do and how to do it. the problem is these people are at the lines and who cares about what they think. if this were a co like GE or Microsoft then yes senior management would be listening.</p>
<p>its like that the dasani ads of water filtering. 7 filters of middle management change what gets sent to the top and what should be sent down. so the first thing Nortel needs to do is show all middle managers the door. it will take 6-8 months to stabilize but people will strive to do this once they see accountability.</p>
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		<title>By: MoneyGames</title>
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		<dc:creator>MoneyGames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 01:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fresh Bloods words - its now a do not care and do not work hard mentality - I agree to some extent. There are people who have continued to work hard over the past 5 years but now why should they continue to work hard? At least they will go back to the 8 hour (USA) or 7 1/2 hour (Canadian) days not the 12 to 15 some have been doing since Mr. Z came on board. Employees are burned out from over work - now with no reward at retirement you will either move on as soon as possible or move on in the next12 to 18 months when the timing is best for you....giving up less of yourself and your life in the meantime.

What does Nortel make? I don&#039;t think new blood will be able to answer that question. The veteran employee may have an idea of what Nortel needs to do or make but no one is asking and if they ask they don&#039;t listen or care for the answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fresh Bloods words &#8211; its now a do not care and do not work hard mentality &#8211; I agree to some extent. There are people who have continued to work hard over the past 5 years but now why should they continue to work hard? At least they will go back to the 8 hour (USA) or 7 1/2 hour (Canadian) days not the 12 to 15 some have been doing since Mr. Z came on board. Employees are burned out from over work &#8211; now with no reward at retirement you will either move on as soon as possible or move on in the next12 to 18 months when the timing is best for you&#8230;.giving up less of yourself and your life in the meantime.</p>
<p>What does Nortel make? I don&#8217;t think new blood will be able to answer that question. The veteran employee may have an idea of what Nortel needs to do or make but no one is asking and if they ask they don&#8217;t listen or care for the answer.</p>
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